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Hey Guys!!

Just as the title says, Im looking for a laptop for my dad. He has been using an HP for the past few years but just crapped out on him today. It does not have to be anything fancy at all just something reliable. The only thing he uses it for is his banking and surfing the internet. Nothing more, there is no gaming or anything of that sort needed. It will also rarely if ever run straight on the battery. Size wise I think a 17" screen would be nice, also not sure what to say about price maybe less than $450 idk. Also located in the US! Any other questions just ask!! Thanks!!!thumb.gif
Edited by DrockinWV - 10/3/16 at 9:51am
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Have a rough estimate on the specs of the old machine? Knowing what someone has been habituated to will give a better idea of what they will expect when switching machines.

17" screen is going to substantially shrink the number of options. There are a handful of laptops fitting that budget with that screen size at Newegg, and most likely similar types of hardware would be found in other places for that price. Given the low demand on resources I would say just about anything you find with that size screen should work fine. You could also browse used laptops since you don't need cutting edge performance, but again it will be slim pickings for laptops that huge. Black Friday is not terribly far away, so if he can make due for the time being, then you could possibly find something for less money or a nicer model for the same expense.

You mention that this will rarely ever run on batteries. Would a small HTPC be better? A NUC or similar with a high quality wireless keyboard and mouse or other wireless accessories could end up costing well below your target budget. There are tons of other small form factor PC's available in different configurations that come either barebones or complete. Some people love being able to use their large screen TV as a monitor and others hate it, but it is certainly an option to look into.

I have a Braswell N3700 based 11" Dell laptop that I bought this spring and it works fine. The slow platter drive was absolutely terrible. I knew it would be in advance and bought an SSD for it before I bought the laptop. I would set a few bucks aside for an SSD if getting a new machine with a platter drive. The price keeps dropping and the time it saves on boot up and shutdown is worth the small investment. There are some larger screen laptops with the N3700/N3710 processors that work perfectly fine. I know newer Apollo Lake processors should be making their way to the market soon, so I would wait for those to drop if waiting is an option. Something with a Haswell/Broadwell/Skylake base would perform better. I'm out of the loop with AMD.
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HP Laptop Pavilion 17 Core i3 5010U (2.10 GHz) 6 GB Memory 1 TB HDD ($319). So enough left in the budget for an SSD. thumb.gif

Its refurbished, but there simply isn't much other choice for 17" sub $450 laptops.
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I mean, why a lappy if he always just leaves it plugged in?
Anyways if all he does is browse the web, but he wants a massive screen....
Well just get the cheapest laptop of that form factor!
Seems the one Gilles3000 listed is of the cheapest[but not complete trash], however it is refurbished
This seems to be the best price for a new laptop of that size Lenovo 6th i3-6100U 4gb ram 17.3" 500gb
I was initially thinking a tablet/2in1 until I saw the size
If he doesn't download stuff you can get a chrome book[really easy to use thin and lite] if he was willing to drop down to the 15" range the cost like $200
What died in the old?
Edited by Chaython - 10/3/16 at 2:17pm
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15" would definitely be fine, really just seeing what is out there.
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Originally Posted by Kleer Kut View Post

Have a rough estimate on the specs of the old machine? Knowing what someone has been habituated to will give a better idea of what they will expect when switching machines.

17" screen is going to substantially shrink the number of options. There are a handful of laptops fitting that budget with that screen size at Newegg, and most likely similar types of hardware would be found in other places for that price. Given the low demand on resources I would say just about anything you find with that size screen should work fine. You could also browse used laptops since you don't need cutting edge performance, but again it will be slim pickings for laptops that huge. Black Friday is not terribly far away, so if he can make due for the time being, then you could possibly find something for less money or a nicer model for the same expense.

You mention that this will rarely ever run on batteries. Would a small HTPC be better? A NUC or similar with a high quality wireless keyboard and mouse or other wireless accessories could end up costing well below your target budget. There are tons of other small form factor PC's available in different configurations that come either barebones or complete. Some people love being able to use their large screen TV as a monitor and others hate it, but it is certainly an option to look into.

I have a Braswell N3700 based 11" Dell laptop that I bought this spring and it works fine. The slow platter drive was absolutely terrible. I knew it would be in advance and bought an SSD for it before I bought the laptop. I would set a few bucks aside for an SSD if getting a new machine with a platter drive. The price keeps dropping and the time it saves on boot up and shutdown is worth the small investment. There are some larger screen laptops with the N3700/N3710 processors that work perfectly fine. I know newer Apollo Lake processors should be making their way to the market soon, so I would wait for those to drop if waiting is an option. Something with a Haswell/Broadwell/Skylake base would perform better. I'm out of the loop with AMD.

Not totally sure what the one just crashed was, all I know is that it was an HP laptop. I have thought about a HTPC but he generally likes watching tv while surfing from the couch. Thanks for all the input!
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HP Laptop Pavilion 17 Core i3 5010U (2.10 GHz) 6 GB Memory 1 TB HDD ($319). So enough left in the budget for an SSD. thumb.gif

Its refurbished, but there simply isn't much other choice for 17" sub $450 laptops.

Thanks for the find, this may work if I can talk him into a refurbished
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I mean, why a lappy if he always just leaves it plugged in?
Anyways if all he does is browse the web, but he wants a massive screen....
Well just get the cheapest laptop of that form factor!
Seems the one Gilles3000 listed is of the cheapest

He likes using it while on the couch generally. Ive tried doing the desktop and HTPC route, but he isnt a fan lol.
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Maybe some type of tablet work suffice?
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Yeah it was just a thought, I know from experience that some people are set in their ways and others simply don't have any experience doing things in different ways to know what they do and don't like.

The tablet idea might work, but you may want to get one of those 2 in 1's with a detachable keyboard in case he prefers the keyboard. Most of the tablets are limited to 32GB or 64GB and from what I hear the 32GB ones aren't big enough to run a full install of Win 10 with all of the updates. Just something to look out for. I specifically chose a laptop with a removable drive to make it easier to fix OS issues.

One last note I forgot to mention before - Friends don't let friends buy Lenovo. They have consistently done things to alienate their customer base and people keep blindly buying their products and crying a river after the fact. If you are OK with them then it's your money, but I would think twice before buying any of their products. Make sure you know what you are in for before throwing down your cash.
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