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So I am debating between the r9 290 and the 780 I can get both for around 150-180 if I wait long enough. I have seen benchmarks, done research etc....

This is purely about OC potential. How likely is one to overclock above and beyond the abilities of the other? I mean purely on the odds I would think the 780 would win out because of temps. Let me know what you guys think.
post #2 of 16
the r9 290 is faster around 16% on latest DX11 , and even greater difference on DX12 and vulkan, the GTX 780 doesnt support async shaders, has worse performance scaling on mgpu, and less vram, evne after OC the performance difference should have 290 ahead

Edited by PontiacGTX - 10/3/16 at 3:14pm
post #3 of 16
If I was on a tight budget and had to chose between the two I would go for the 290 if for no other reason then ATI / AMD provides driver support for their older cards whereas Nvidia drop theirs with each new generation, also, better DX-11 and DX-12 performance and more VRAM is a nice addition moving forward.. OK, if you stick to 1080p the VRAM may not be as important but it could still come in handy at 1080p if you play modded games with lots of textures.

The only issue could possibly be heat, the 290 runs hot.
Edited by vallonen - 10/3/16 at 3:31pm
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So the R9 290 is what I will go with then. Since no one has anything else to say.
post #5 of 16
You've done your research you know which card to pick.

The 780 would do fine at 1080p whereas the 290 would last a little bit longer moving forward but run hotter.
Edited by vallonen - 10/6/16 at 5:56am
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post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by vallonen View Post

You've done your research you know which card to pick.

The 780 would do fine at 1080p whereas the 290 would last a little bit longer moving forward but run hotter.

Yeah pretty much. I just wanted to know if you could possibly overclock the 780 to exceed the r9 290. I guess the answer is no.
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I would step up another 20 bucks and get a rx 480 x4 or x8gb.
   
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I would step up another 20 bucks and get a rx 480 x4 or x8gb.

Nah I would rather not spend an extra $70 for an about 7% increase. I could get a 290X but getting one of those for under 200 is hard and it is only about 9% more powerful. Either way not much of a step up in performance. At that point I start to wonder if is REALLY worth spending $40-70 for single digit performance increases.
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have you seen the bandwidth on the 480s?
   
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post #10 of 16
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have you seen the bandwidth on the 480s?

Does it matter? The benchmarks speak volumes. the rx 480 is about 7-19% ahead of the r9 290. It isn't worth $50-70 more than the r9 290 in my eyes. Now if it was only a $20 difference then yeah I would go with the rx 480 but good luck finding an rx 480 for $190. You would have an easier time finding an r9 290X for that price.
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