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Hey all.

Figured it is worth a shot to ask on here. I'm building a new nas as my current one is a bit dated. I'm having trouble deciding what sort of network I should build for it.

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Currently I am using the intel server adapter with 4 x 1gbps links to my switch. I then have 1gbps links though out the house to my various devices. This worked great for the past 3 some years, however now that my file server HDD performance will vastly out perform the single 1gbps links and I'd like a faster connection to my main desktop.

So my question is how would you go about getting past the 120mb/s network speed limit to my main desktop. Team multiple 1gbps links to it? Add a fiber card to each computer and direct connect them?

Distance isn't an issue, my file server sits 5 feet away from my desktop. My internal SSD's on my main desktop can transfer at speeds of around 850-900mb/s (raid 0), so being limited to 120mb/s to and from my attached network storage can suck sometimes when transferring large files. I'm not trying to break the bank to do this, so keep recommendations under 1000$.
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You can probably get a pair of 10GbE cards ($100ea) and an 8 port 10GbE switch for under $1000USD. This would also allow you to upgrade other computers should you feel the need. The hardest part is finding a reasonably priced switch.
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Not sure how relevant this is to you, but Building a Cost Conscious Faster and Gigabit Network might be a good read.
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Thanks guys.

I wanted to stay away from 10GbE, since its expensive as all heck right now.

I was looking into SFP, and teaming multiple 1Gbps links for additional speed to only my Main rig. Looks like SFP is the way to go.
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post #5 of 21
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Thanks guys.

I wanted to stay away from 10GbE, since its expensive as all heck right now.

I was looking into SFP, and teaming multiple 1Gbps links for additional speed to only my Main rig. Looks like SFP is the way to go.

Teaming the NICS is likely to leave you very disappointed. Teaming rarely works as intended and even then, is really designed for server to server communication. Bandwidth aggregation is really only supported with Windows Server, despite what Windows will tell you. If you want to go faster than 1Gps you are going to need to step up to 10gbe.

You don't have to get a switch, you can simply run a connection from one 10gbe nic on your desktop to the other 10gbe nic on the server.
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Teaming the NICS is likely to leave you very disappointed. Teaming rarely works as intended and even then, is really designed for server to server communication. Bandwidth aggregation is really only supported with Windows Server, despite what Windows will tell you. If you want to go faster than 1Gps you are going to need to step up to 10gbe.

You don't have to get a switch, you can simply run a connection from one 10gbe nic on your desktop to the other 10gbe nic on the server.

ya but fiber is still way cheaper. The intel Nic's I was looking at were 100$+ a piece.

IE

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016OYD0D4/ref=pd_sim_147_7?ie=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B016OYD0D4&pd_rd_r=R69MTP0WKN2G61AWHGJH&pd_rd_w=puzlp&pd_rd_wg=lPzla&psc=1&refRID=R69MTP0WKN2G61AWHGJH

This should fit my needs between my file server and my main desktop, while leaving everything else alone.
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ya but fiber is still way cheaper. The intel Nic's I was looking at were 100$+ a piece.

IE

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016OYD0D4/ref=pd_sim_147_7?ie=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B016OYD0D4&pd_rd_r=R69MTP0WKN2G61AWHGJH&pd_rd_w=puzlp&pd_rd_wg=lPzla&psc=1&refRID=R69MTP0WKN2G61AWHGJH

This should fit my needs between my file server and my main desktop, while leaving everything else alone.

SFP is always going to be cheaper than SFP+, but don't expect to see a dramatic increase in throughput. Teaming, is more about multiple concurrent connections (multi user) than aggregate bandwidth.

Depending on your NAS those Mellanox cards should work. I know FreeNAS doesn't play that well with Mellanox cards.
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SFP is always going to be cheaper than SFP+, but don't expect to see a dramatic increase in throughput. Teaming, is more about multiple concurrent connections (multi user) than aggregate bandwidth.

Depending on your NAS those Mellanox cards should work. I know FreeNAS doesn't play that well with Mellanox cards.

Ya I know all about Teaming. The file server now has 4 links 1gbps links, but I only did that so I could transfer files on multiple machines with out slow downs.

I do use Freemas. so thanks for letting me know about the Mellanox cards. Will have to look into which cards to use for compatibility. I'd be happy with 200-300 mb/s transfer speeds.
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Have a look at microTik routers, get a layer 3 switch like the CRS210-8G-2S+IN with 8 GbE ports and 2 SFP+ ports. Your main rig + NAS could each have a PCIe SFP+ adapter connected 10GbE to the switch. All other devices off the 1GbE ports on the switch. You'll have a 10GbE connection between your main computer and NAS, and NAS can handle 10 clients maxxing out 1GbE links. I'm currently sorting out a setup like this at home, given that my NAS is in the same room as my main computer and the router and switch
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