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Is HWL nemesis GTX 560 the best performing rad for low rpm fans ?

post #1 of 12
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After alot of thinking, I decided to move to the thermaltake core P5 case, and since this badboy only supports 1 rad, I decided it`s going to be the best one on the block!
I am sure single 560 with quality fans will handle CPU + GPU just fine. Is there something better around or should I just go and press the "order now" button ?
Fans will be phanteks F140MP since I happen to have these at hand ( rpm will be around 1000 or so, since I do enjoy silence. thumb.gif
Another option is a 480 rad since I also happen to have darkside gentle typhoon 1850 PWM variant around, but I belive a 560 will offer superior performance, and both will fit the case just perfect.
Based my conclusion on Thermalbench results.
post #2 of 12
Hmmm I use this rad for my Cpu loop I like it. I run my fans @800 rpm does well. I think it's best of the best from Hwl for low fan rpm not sure though. http://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/05/29/hardware-labs-sr2-360mm-radiator-review/5/ Looks like the opti flow one rules if all you care about is low fan rpm. just had a look at hwl website Um I guess the one your talking about is the gen2 opti flow ??? lol I did all this research before I bought mine. Are you going push only or push/pull??

Edited by geox19 - 10/4/16 at 1:20pm
post #3 of 12
Judging from thermalbench and extreme rigs, the order seems to be:

  • GTS(thin; medium fpi; high resistance)-> good at low speeds,peaks at low/medium speeds
  • SR2(thick, low fpi, low resistance)-> good all around, low speeds comparable to GTS, but high speed not as good as GTX
  • GTX(thick, medium fpi, high resistance)-> bad at low speeds, but gets better the higher the air flow


So for low RPMs it's between the GTS and the SR2. Had the same choice roughly half a year ago and went with the SR2, but I'm somewhat disappointed. Trying the GTS now.
post #4 of 12
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Originally Posted by Toltol View Post

Judging from thermalbench and extreme rigs, the order seems to be:

  • GTS(thin; medium fpi; high resistance)-> good at low speeds,peaks at low/medium speeds
  • SR2(thick, low fpi, low resistance)-> good all around, low speeds comparable to GTS, but high speed not as good as GTX
  • GTX(thick, medium fpi, high resistance)-> bad at low speeds, but gets better the higher the air flow


So for low RPMs it's between the GTS and the SR2. Had the same choice roughly half a year ago and went with the SR2, but I'm somewhat disappointed. Trying the GTS now.

why are you somewhat disappointed with the SR2? I ask because i only use it in my cpu loop so i'm not really pushing it. My plans are to add another cpu to the loop when skylake X comes out.
post #5 of 12
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Originally Posted by geox19 View Post

why are you somewhat disappointed with the SR2? I ask because i only use it in my cpu loop so i'm not really pushing it. My plans are to add another cpu to the loop when skylake X comes out.

Well, using a 560 + 480 + 360 SR2s @ 800 RPM with Phanteks MP Fans and cooling just a 980Ti Lightning and an 6600k@1.3v, I get about a delta of about 7° under load (let's say witcher 3) which seems kinda high considering the amount of rad space. However if I turn the fans to max (~1500 rpm) the delta gets to 2-3° which is pretty good, so it seems to be an airflow issue.

Also unless gaming, all fans except those on the 560 are off, and even then...idleing, I get delta temps of 4-5° with no load whatsoever.

Apart from that, those extra ports on the SR2 are extremely handy though, gonna miss that with the GTS.

For CPU only though I don't think you'll have any issues in any case. Currently running just the CPU because I'm still waiting on my new GPU waterblock and the 560 with that 6600k is currently running with a 1.3° delta...
post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by Toltol View Post

Judging from thermalbench and extreme rigs, the order seems to be:

  • GTS(thin; medium fpi; high resistance)-> good at low speeds,peaks at low/medium speeds
  • SR2(thick, low fpi, low resistance)-> good all around, low speeds comparable to GTS, but high speed not as good as GTX
  • GTX(thick, medium fpi, high resistance)-> bad at low speeds, but gets better the higher the air flow


So for low RPMs it's between the GTS and the SR2. Had the same choice roughly half a year ago and went with the SR2, but I'm somewhat disappointed. Trying the GTS now.

GTX is not the same as the Nemesis GTX, mind you. The true successor to the GTX is the upcoming Nemesis GTR.
post #7 of 12
Here's some of my stress testing on my cpu loop with HWL Blackice SR2 560MP if your interested. Not sure if you can read the screenshots easily I'll post links if you can't.
the fans are thermaltake riing 14 HS
Idle

700rpm

1300rpm



NM about the links just have to click the original
Edited by geox19 - 10/5/16 at 12:38am
post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks for input everyone, when is the nemesis GTR supposed to be released?
Edited by outofmyheadyo - 10/5/16 at 10:02am
post #9 of 12
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Originally Posted by outofmyheadyo View Post

Thqnks for input everyone, when is the nemesis GTR supposed to be released?

Fairly soon, but it's not for low RPM fans.
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 
I read about it on reddit, it`s not for me that`s right, im going with a 560 NEMESIS GTS or 560 NEMESIS GTX all comes down to availability here, for some odd reason, many shops dont sell HWL rads here in europe, and the ones that do do not have the nemesis GTX.
The GTX comes out to around 70€ more expensive over the GTS version.
Edited by outofmyheadyo - 10/5/16 at 10:06am
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