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I have a quite odd and irritating issue with my newly built PC.

Everyday when I first start it up in the morning, it doesn't want to boot. It starts, but I get no signal to the monitor and the SSD doesn't seem to be loading Windows because I get not indication of any activity from the HDD-LED.
When this happens, I need to turn off the PSU(sometimes more than once) and then start again and then it boots up as it should.

What could be the problem? Faulty graphics card or motherboard perhaps? Or could there be some setting on the motherboard causing this? I had the CPU overclocked to 4,5GHz and XMP on the RAM, but I've tried clearing the CMOS and running the CPU and RAM at stock-speeds instead and this seems to temporarily fix the issue, but then it gradually comes back again.
Worth mentioning is also that I previously used a PSU which I believe was faulty, could this perhaps have caused damage to the graphics card or motherboard?

There is however another issue which would suggest that the graphics card is the problem. When I'm playing Guild Wars 2 I have on a few occasions gotten a strange graphics/image artifact. The upper half of the screen gets an odd pixelation and miscoloration. This does however go away as soon as I change areas in the game. In total this has so far only happened like 3 or 4 times though.
Maybe this is a completely seperate problem though.

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Have you tried using onboard graphics instead of the GPU? Does the problem still occur (even with the GPU removed)?
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You said you cleared your BIOS; but you might try to update it if one is available.

Two thoughts from my experience,
1. I have two different boards with cold boot bugs; and I just had to accept that there was no fix for them.
2. I get graphics artifacts when my CPU or RAM is overclocked too far (not just when I overclock my GPU).

That's a nice PSU; but I don't know if it's big enough to power your setup, it seems like it should. Maybe it has a slight defect and can't handle the demand of a cold boot or gaming periods.

If the problem goes away when you use onboard graphics as lovetobuild recommended, then try a different GPU if you have one or can borrow one. If the problem comes back with a different GPU and you are running stock clocks on everything then the computer might be starved for power or the motherboard may be going bad. If there is another PCIE slot on the board, try the GPU in it and see if the problem goes away. That would suggest the board, or at least one PCIE slot, is going bad.
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Hi, since this is a new build, the first thing I'd to is double-check whether everything is plugged in properly and there is no dust that might have been carried over from older components. You could also try to find/borrow another PSU to test the build. In my case sporadic boot failures were usually caused by crappy/overheated/near-end-of-life PSUs.
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Originally Posted by c0zm0 View Post

Hi, since this is a new build, the first thing I'd to is double-check whether everything is plugged in properly and there is no dust that might have been carried over from older components. You could also try to find/borrow another PSU to test the build. In my case sporadic boot failures were usually caused by crappy/overheated/near-end-of-life PSUs.

I have double checked and everything is properly seated.

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You said you cleared your BIOS; but you might try to update it if one is available.

Two thoughts from my experience,
1. I have two different boards with cold boot bugs; and I just had to accept that there was no fix for them.
2. I get graphics artifacts when my CPU or RAM is overclocked too far (not just when I overclock my GPU).

That's a nice PSU; but I don't know if it's big enough to power your setup, it seems like it should. Maybe it has a slight defect and can't handle the demand of a cold boot or gaming periods.

If the problem goes away when you use onboard graphics as lovetobuild recommended, then try a different GPU if you have one or can borrow one. If the problem comes back with a different GPU and you are running stock clocks on everything then the computer might be starved for power or the motherboard may be going bad. If there is another PCIE slot on the board, try the GPU in it and see if the problem goes away. That would suggest the board, or at least one PCIE slot, is going bad.

I have the latest BIOS version, updating it was one of the first things I did when I installed everything tongue.gif

So far I haven't gotten the graphics/image artifact issue when I run everything at stock speeds. If I get i again I'll try using the onboard graphics instead.
And since I have an mITX-board I only have one PCIe port ;p.

Aside from these issues everything works great. I've for example done a few hours of stress testing with Real bench and aida64 without any issues.
post #6 of 16
If that is one stick of 16GB RAM then you could switch memory slots and check if the cold boot problem still exists.
I think that board has dual BIOS, so you could try the other BIOS. If one of the BIOS boots without a problem you could setup an overclock profile in the other. Then you might be able to boot with the stock BIOS, then switch to the other one that's overclocked in the BIOS menu.
Were all your components named in the motherboard compatibility lists? Sometimes there can be a weird issue between a motherboard and a SSD or RAM; but you usually discover that when you boot the build for the first time.
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Originally Posted by JayPhizzt View Post

I have a quite odd and irritating issue with my newly built PC.

Everyday when I first start it up in the morning, it doesn't want to boot. It starts, but I get no signal to the monitor and the SSD doesn't seem to be loading Windows because I get not indication of any activity from the HDD-LED.
When this happens, I need to turn off the PSU(sometimes more than once) and then start again and then it boots up as it should.

What could be the problem? Faulty graphics card or motherboard perhaps? Or could there be some setting on the motherboard causing this? I had the CPU overclocked to 4,5GHz and XMP on the RAM, but I've tried clearing the CMOS and running the CPU and RAM at stock-speeds instead and this seems to temporarily fix the issue, but then it gradually comes back again.
Worth mentioning is also that I previously used a PSU which I believe was faulty, could this perhaps have caused damage to the graphics card or motherboard?

There is however another issue which would suggest that the graphics card is the problem. When I'm playing Guild Wars 2 I have on a few occasions gotten a strange graphics/image artifact. The upper half of the screen gets an odd pixelation and miscoloration. This does however go away as soon as I change areas in the game. In total this has so far only happened like 3 or 4 times though.
Maybe this is a completely seperate problem though.

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I say lack of power supply.. Probably at its stretch point.
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According to the Outervison PSU Calc (I'm sure someone will tell me it's garbage but it's at least a decent rough guide) that system should draw under 550W, and that's overclocked and overvolted.

EDIT: Just seen the PSU is only 520W. For some reason I thought it was a 750. Still, 520W should be enough @stock. For overclocking 550W+ would be better.

JayPhizzt:
What's your cooling setup?
What are your idle and load temps?
Edited by lovetobuild - 10/6/16 at 2:24pm
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Well I bought a 700w PSU with my former PC and it cost a whopping 35.00 Now I can say it was large enough but when it comes to all the goodies under load. "even a mild stock" it would give random lockups freezes and BSOD's

Everything I had in the machine was well above average but the PSU. After researching and exhausting possibilities I cam here and asked about a very good PSU and the majority said Seasoninc x750 Gold +80 was the choice.

So many many months later i ordered one and a installed it and have never had a power issue since.

Now it is on this new updated machine running the AMD 8370 with the TUF Sabertooth 990FX R3.0 with the MSI GTX-1060 6GB X Gamer GPU. 32 GB Gskill Ripjaw Z series.

In short if you can afford to update to a Quality PSU do so. PSU is the main line defense to all you pc components. If it ripples, spikes, brownouts, and all is all power fluctuations you can bet something in the PC is going the get Toasted.

Save a 120- 150 for a Gold or Platinum PSU. check review. If you try everything else at default setting and can't get stable then I would say PSU.

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The price of a power supply isn't necessarily indicative of how good it is, just how much it costs.
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