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post #21 of 203
I'm really glad you have had a positive experience with an AIO cooler. At the same time, I've never heard of a heatsink failing and I've heard of far too many AIO coolers failing. Having experienced AIO cooler failure firsthand, I'm simply never going back. It's not worth the gamble. I'd much rather spend half the money and get similar performance. I'd rather deal with block RAM slots than a CPU that died due to excessive heat.

Another thing I didn't particularly like about my experience with the Nepton 140XL was the pump noise. I couldn't hear the fans at all, but that's because all the fan noise was being drowned out by the pump. I wear an Astro A50 headset and could still hear the pump. By comparison, I cannot hear the San Ace 2500 rpm 120x38mm fan currently on my TRUE through my headset.
Edited by chessmyantidrug - 10/7/16 at 9:09pm
post #22 of 203
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guess it's a chance you take with all hardware, never know when you will get a bad one.
post #23 of 203
I have had 6 CLC coolers over 3 years and none of them lasted more then half a year
3 of them died and 2 of them had massive coil whine as well as a fair amount of pump noise and the last one leaked

3 of those where Corsair 2 of them NZXT and the last one was a Cooler Master so its not one branded CLC cooler its ALL of them

CLC coolers are overrated and overhyped and performance is all over the map with a few good ones here and there that wont break make a racket or leak

But most of them are mediocre at best and crap at worst, if you are willing to deal with all the crap go ahead but know that a good air cooler is often just as good if not better cheaper more quiet and more reliable

There are cons and pros to both sides so what you really should do is think about what you want more looks or reliability and noise
If you really want liquid cooling get a propper AIO cooler from EK or Swiftech or build your own loop from the ground up

Dont buy a crappy CLC cooler like the ones from Cooler Master / Corsair / NZXT / Antec and all the others

Edit: 6 freaking coolers dont know why i was foolish enough to keep buying them after the first 2-3.
Edited by shilka - 10/8/16 at 2:52am
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post #24 of 203
CLC's are not terrible people buy them for the looks, but you should know of the associated risks such as with any liquid cooler. When ekwb first launched their open loop aio it had to be recalled due to leaks and since then have been working fine. Also note that the open loop aio need to have their tubes replaced every 3 years I think (not exactly sure). Same thought process for clc's as they don't last forever (mostly the pump is the first to fail) and you are buying them for their looks. Most modern cpu's will just shutdown if they overheat from the pump failing as a protective measure so you are really only left with the possiblity of leaks which is with all liquid coolers.

If you don't care about looks just get an air cooler.
post #25 of 203
shilka, sorry to hear about your experiences and sorry for my bit of attitude. Since you're speaking from personal experience and not just bashing them, I can appreciate that more.

As I stated however, I've had great experience with my Corsair CLCs, I can't speak for any other brand (not sure I would trust any other brand) but I used one CLC for 2 years until a connector on it broke, the unit still worked otherwise, and now I've used the replacement for nearly two years with no problems.

My H100i keeps my delidded Haswell i7 at 70C under load, the highest it goes while gaming is about 60C in Witcher 3, and since I put non stock fans on it it's pretty quiet even with the fans at full RPM. I wouldn't recommend using the stock fans, I did for a while and they were certainly much louder.

Anyway, I'll keep using mine and recommending them to other people. Plenty of people use these things for a long time and have a good experience, and as stated, the looks and the no maintenance make them attractive to some people over a custom loop.

That said, I did use tower air coolers for a long time, and they have their problems too, but you are right, in many cases a tower air cooler is competitive or even superior with a CLC. Again though many of them are huge, bulky, put weight on your motherboard, have to be removed to install RAM, have RAM clearance issues... I would suggest the OP look into a better cooler though, do some research and see if you can find something better than the Hyper 212 Evo.

Regards and rep all around. Peace.
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post #26 of 203
I've never seen a tower cooler fail or take other components with it. And processors don't instantly shutdown when they get too hot. Damage definitely can be done. Some tower coolers might block RAM slots, but far from all do. And pretty much any tower cooler can handle a delidded 84W/88W CPU.
post #27 of 203
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just installed 2 new fans to see if it would bring heat down, went down 2c but noise from one of them is kinda annoying, but don't think i have it put right, i have it as sucking air in from bottom of fan, maybe i should switch it around and make it to blow air out instead.
post #28 of 203
Airflow is something that easy to tinker with. You ideally want cool air coming in from the front/bottom and warm air exhausting out the back/top. Your situation may dictate different fan orientations.
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yeah, i got the frong and bottom fans sucking air in and one blowing it out, i just installed the bottom one and and replaced the back exhaust one, i can try putting it in front if that would help, the case is suppose to let you have 2 front fans, but has a tempered glass in front, so dunno if it would suck anything in lol
Edited by Butters5000 - 10/8/16 at 7:04pm
post #30 of 203
With my hyper 212, i5 6600k clocked to 4.5GHz and uncore set to 4100MHz running Prime95 my temperature peaks at 90c so it is safe. When I game it is only 55c I don't worry about heat it is made to run 3 years 24/7 at 100c, a lot of people with laptops run that temp. Tcase is what you should keep your case Temperature at. I don't have any case fans I just run with the side cover off. So I would not worry about heat I have been keeping my CPU's overclocked for 5 years with the hyper 212.
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