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Hello,

so I have a GTX 1070 FTW from EVGA in my system.
Just like one day ago, I set my GPU to maximum performance in NV control panel and I used EVGA Precision X OC to overclock my card.
I oc'ed +125 MHz core clock and +500 MHz which was completely stable when I set my GPU to maximum performance, because the voltage was higher in idle.
Then I did a big mistake, I installed 373.06 driver and it f*cked up my complete system. My OC wasn't stable anymore, I was getting checkerboard and flickering artifacts @ 144 Hz, even @stock I had stability issues (like checkerboard), I also got a bluescreen.
I rolled back to the 372.90, which was the driver I had no problems with and which was stable with my OC, and even with that driver I had serious stability issues.
I needed to format my drive and reinstall windows.

Now I reinstalled 372.90 and I have no problems with flickering @ 144 Hz so far. Don't know about OC yet.
So my question is, is it possible to force my GPU to run with 3D clocks all the time? Because I set my GPU to maximum performance, and when no programs run like Steam, Google Chrome etc. my GPU still clocks down to 2D clocks. And thats the huge problem, because then the GPU is also running with 625 mv instead of 781 mv and my OC is getting unstable and I get the checkerboard frequently.

Nvidia already announced a VBios update for the GTX 1070 with Micron VRAM (my GPU also has Micron VRAM) because of these stability issues. But they still didn't release the VBios yet... and a few days ago, I was able to use my OC without any problems with this maximum performance "trick".
I actually don't know if my GPU was running @ 3D clocks right after booting up my PC before I installed the 373.06. But after booting, I had no stability issues when the OC was applied by EVGA Precision.
After I installed 373.06 and rollback to 372.90, I couldn't boot up my PC without getting a checkerboard - Because the GPU was running @ 2D clocks.
As I said, I didn't try out yet after a clean windows install.
But anyway, I just want to fix my GPU voltage in idle to a certain value. Is that possible?

And it seems, that EVGA OC is also like a 3D application, because it let my GPU run @ 3D clocks.
When I used MSI Afterburner, my GPU didn't clock up to 3D. I would actually prefer MSI Afterburner, but when my GPU is not clocking up, I cant until nvidia release the new VBios.
And yes, the checkerboard also appeared when using EVGA OC, not only with MSI Afterburner. (I didn't have them installed at the same time).


Edit: I tried OC now. After rebooting and sometime waiting, I get checkerboard. I even got a BS after that (Video Scheduler Internal Error)
And the flickering appeared again @ 144 Hz (after I installed EVGA Precision X OC, as it seems).
This is what the flickering looks like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AASbMX7d5ZQ

Its like the installing of 373.06 "destroyed" my card.
Edited by addicTix - 10/6/16 at 11:17pm
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Hello,

so I have a GTX 1070 FTW from EVGA in my system.
Just like one day ago, I set my GPU to maximum performance in NV control panel and I used EVGA Precision X OC to overclock my card.
I oc'ed +125 MHz core clock and +500 MHz which was completely stable when I set my GPU to maximum performance, because the voltage was higher in idle.
Then I did a big mistake, I installed 373.06 driver and it f*cked up my complete system. My OC wasn't stable anymore, I was getting checkerboard and flickering artifacts @ 144 Hz, even @stock I had stability issues (like checkerboard), I also got a bluescreen.
I rolled back to the 372.90, which was the driver I had no problems with and which was stable with my OC, and even with that driver I had serious stability issues.
I needed to format my drive and reinstall windows.

Now I reinstalled 372.90 and I have no problems with flickering @ 144 Hz so far. Don't know about OC yet.
So my question is, is it possible to force my GPU to run with 3D clocks all the time? Because I set my GPU to maximum performance, and when no programs run like Steam, Google Chrome etc. my GPU still clocks down to 2D clocks. And thats the huge problem, because then the GPU is also running with 625 mv instead of 781 mv and my OC is getting unstable and I get the checkerboard frequently.

Nvidia already announced a VBios update for the GTX 1070 with Micron VRAM (my GPU also has Micron VRAM) because of these stability issues. But they still didn't release the VBios yet... and a few days ago, I was able to use my OC without any problems with this maximum performance "trick".
I actually don't know if my GPU was running @ 3D clocks right after booting up my PC before I installed the 373.06. But after booting, I had no stability issues when the OC was applied by EVGA Precision.
After I installed 373.06 and rollback to 372.90, I couldn't boot up my PC without getting a checkerboard - Because the GPU was running @ 2D clocks.
As I said, I didn't try out yet after a clean windows install.
But anyway, I just want to fix my GPU voltage in idle to a certain value. Is that possible?

And it seems, that EVGA OC is also like a 3D application, because it let my GPU run @ 3D clocks.
When I used MSI Afterburner, my GPU didn't clock up to 3D. I would actually prefer MSI Afterburner, but when my GPU is not clocking up, I cant until nvidia release the new VBios.
And yes, the checkerboard also appeared when using EVGA OC, not only with MSI Afterburner. (I didn't have them installed at the same time).


Edit: I tried OC now. After rebooting and sometime waiting, I get checkerboard. I even got a BS after that (Video Scheduler Internal Error)
And the flickering appeared again @ 144 Hz (after I installed EVGA Precision X OC, as it seems).
This is what the flickering looks like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AASbMX7d5ZQ

Its like the installing of 373.06 "destroyed" my card.

 

 

It is not the drivers per se. The installation reset the power options for your card in teh Nvidia control panel. Go back into the Nvidia control panel and set the card to maximum performance mode. 

 

Checkerboarding/BSOD is something that is bug related with Micron memory cards. Nvidia is working on a bios update to resolve it at the moment. It happens if you apply a load  to a high memory overclock if the card is idling at the power optimized level of .625v or even lower. At least if you use Afterburner, the Max performance mode can keep idle voltage at around .800v and you will not get the checkerboarding/bsod

 

The other thing that can push down idle voltage is overclocking in Afterburner by using the core slider. Use the curve (CTRL-F), leave the left side at stock and pull up the points in the 1.050 to 1.93 region to the frequency that you want to overclock to. The curve is handy as it shows you the exact voltage point that the card is using where the white dotted lines cross over in the X and Y axis 

post #3 of 6
I got the checkerboard/BSOD once, while oveclocking to 2100/8996. This was before I found out about Micron "issue". I exchanged the card, thinking the old card was faulty. I overclocked the new one and it's stable. Also, enabling K-Boost should force 3d clocks all the time. If the problem persists, try uninstalling drivers and PX OC. Then delete the EVGA/PX OC folders(Fresh start). Reboot, re-install drivers and PX OC, reboot again. Try keeping the vram at 8500 MHz effective, or less. See if that helps.

Edited by DeathAngel74 - 10/13/16 at 1:13am
     
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Its no problem now.
I added explorer.exe, microsoft shell and desktop windows manager to high performance in NV control panel, since then my GPU is always @3D clocks and my OC is stable.
2126 MHZ/9000 MHz
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I have mine set to "optimal power". Glad you got it sorted out!
     
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Originally Posted by addicTix View Post

Its no problem now.
I added explorer.exe, microsoft shell and desktop windows manager to high performance in NV control panel, since then my GPU is always @3D clocks and my OC is stable.
2126 MHZ/9000 MHz

I had never thought of trying it that way. Good thinking

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