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Well, I think it's a bit off topic.

We're talking about some blokes who DDOS game servers.
Remember that time when you quoted and accused me of somehow thinking I'm smarter than US intelligence agencies? Lol. My post was meant to be a one off response to the insight that SpinFX had. You can't blame me for getting off topic for defending myself against you.
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Remember that time when you quoted and accused me of somehow thinking I'm smarter than US intelligence agencies? Lol. My post was meant to be a one off response to the insight that SpinFX had. You can't blame me for getting off topic for defending myself against you.

Cool, fair enough.
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There's a place in society for mostly everyone, if you try hard enough to make that place. It's part of the philosophy behind freedom and integration; lots of material on that.

A certain amount of malevolence must be allowed; possibly even encouraged if there's danger of certain types of knowledge being lost. It goes for more than just hackers, but hackers are a good example because they're like your average criminal.. except we understand how talented they can be compared to us.

If the US can't produce as many reliable hackers as the next nation over, they stand at a disadvantage. And imagine how hard it is, in America, to produce savagely brilliant hackers? It must be hard, when the corporate world is willing to offer intelligent programmers the world on a silver platter.

If the military intelligence agencies were smart, they'd encourage kids to target corporations because the skill level required is very, very high. And because corporations can take it, and keep raising the bar. They'd be getting quality recruits whom they could blackmail, but in all reality probably wouldn't need to; I'm sure hacking other countries for the good of their motherland sounds like a dream to these kids.

It'd be silly for the US to throw any of the good ones in jail. Maybe the untalented ones, but definitely not the good ones.

So you are saying that you condone people to do such damage, What makes it right to say OK lets cost our society millions, that it is OK to make problems because it puts others to work, plus the fact that some group of screwball politicians will pass more laws to tighten this from happening with the fact that we can loose far more freedoms to the internet then we have.

Sure it sounds right to allow my kids to hack? No way.. In short the ones that posses the understanding and skills to do such things are not OK to destroy in the name of gain.

It is like saying shooting people just because they exist, that maybe the military could use you as a sniper. Like driving at high speeds and maybe the race car circuit will make you the top driver.

No if the agencies were smart they would pluck folks with you thinking and lobotomize you. You are suppose to work your way into a position legally. not by threats or felonies acts.

In the end I guess the wheel would have never been invented.
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So you are saying that you condone people to do such damage, What makes it right to say OK lets cost our society millions, that it is OK to make problems because it puts others to work, plus the fact that some group of screwball politicians will pass more laws to tighten this from happening with the fact that we can loose far more freedoms to the internet then we have.

Sure it sounds right to allow my kids to hack? No way.. In short the ones that posses the understanding and skills to do such things are not OK to destroy in the name of gain.

It is like saying shooting people just because they exist, that maybe the military could use you as a sniper. Like driving at high speeds and maybe the race car circuit will make you the top driver.

No if the agencies were smart they would pluck folks with you thinking and lobotomize you. You are suppose to work your way into a position legally. not by threats or felonies acts.

In the end I guess the wheel would have never been invented.
lol...lobotomize....you do realize you just condoned doing far worse than you claimed the politicians would do to freedom yeah? Oops I forgot kidnapping and making someone docile isnt illegal if the govt does it....

More on topic i think these people that do this deserve the punishments...there are so many other ways to show your skills that dont hurt others...so you can safely assime this was malicious by intent not a show of skills...anyone can packet storm an ip and make it drop connections...i remember back in high school my networking teacher showed us how a dsl modem can overwhelm a t1 cable connection...interesting stuff
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So you are saying that you condone people to do such damage, What makes it right to say OK lets cost our society millions, that it is OK to make problems because it puts others to work, plus the fact that some group of screwball politicians will pass more laws to tighten this from happening with the fact that we can loose far more freedoms to the internet then we have.

Sure it sounds right to allow my kids to hack? No way.. In short the ones that posses the understanding and skills to do such things are not OK to destroy in the name of gain.

It is like saying shooting people just because they exist, that maybe the military could use you as a sniper. Like driving at high speeds and maybe the race car circuit will make you the top driver.

No if the agencies were smart they would pluck folks with you thinking and lobotomize you. You are suppose to work your way into a position legally. not by threats or felonies acts.

In the end I guess the wheel would have never been invented.
Rest easy, I didn't say any of that.
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Cool, fair enough.

What!? NO! YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO FLAME ONE ANOTHER, NOT DECLARE PEACE! D: WHAT'S HAPPENING TO OCN!? OH WOE IS MEEE!!!1!
     
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What!? NO! YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO FLAME ONE ANOTHER, NOT DECLARE PEACE! D: WHAT'S HAPPENING TO OCN!? OH WOE IS MEEE!!!1!

 

I can't be arsed to argue ha.

 

Maybe some years ago

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Good riddance.
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Well, because of their idiocy, i couldn't enjoy the launch of the new expansion of WoW. So for advancement, we should always be uncomfy ? That's a flawed point of view. That can also allow people like Admiral Tolwyn in Wing Commander series to kill people to cause wars because humanity advances a lot in conflict.

Pathetic.
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So, no trial yet. You will never see a prosecution have an easier time. Months worth of evidence vs "Its just a prank bro".
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