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Microsoft pushed out its Windows 10 Build 14942 to Windows Insiders today. Although the latest build contains several improvements, it will result in higher RAM usage for most users.

The End Of Svchost
Microsoft started to use grouped service host processes (svchost.exe) with the introduction of Windows 2000 as a method to conserve available memory. Microsoft continues to use svchosts today, but it isn't as necessary because the amount of RAM in typical computers has significantly increased.

A key feature of Build 14942 is the end of svchosts on systems that have more than 3.5GB of RAM installed. Instead, each service will run as a separate process. Microsoft said that this would increase service reliability, and it will increase transparency because you'll be able to see which services are running. It will also increase RAM usage somewhat, however, which could have a negative impact on devices with only 4GB of memory.

Am I being convinced ? biggrin.gif
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Thank God for the end of svchost.
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I've got 16GB, might as well use 'em. thumb.gif

I must question why 3.5GB was the cutoff INB4 HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL 970 JOKE XDand not 4GB+1 byte. Then again, I think Windows has actually gotten lighter since Vista in terms of resource usage, so it shouldn't be a problem.
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Thank God for the end of svchost.

Exactly this!
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Some malware or virus hide in fake svchost, maybe this will help in keeping people more secure.
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Originally Posted by 222Panther222 View Post

Some malware or virus hide in fake svchost, maybe this will help in keeping people more secure.

Alternatively, because now each component of svchost is a separate process, it will be easier to spoof and might be easier to miss.

I doubt much will change though, but the transparency is appreciated.
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I've got 16GB, might as well use 'em. thumb.gif

I must question why 3.5GB was the cutoff INB4 HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL 970 JOKE XDand not 4GB+1 byte. Then again, I think Windows has actually gotten lighter since Vista in terms of resource usage, so it shouldn't be a problem.
Probably because of shared memory between cpu and igpu. On pretty much all the lower-middlerange laptops with 4gb ram that I prepare for our customers, task-manager says there's 3,5gb ram available thumb.gif
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The build contains a useful modification to the Active Hours setting for businesses, which will allow companies to set up to 18 hours as active usage times.
I like this change too.
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Probably because of shared memory between cpu and igpu. On pretty much all the lower-middlerange laptops with 4gb ram that I prepare for our customers, task-manager says there's 3,5gb ram available thumb.gif

Kinda. This is how an APU looks on Windows 7 in resmon.exe:




Windows is detecting 8192MiB (= 8GiB) total, but a little over 2GiB is "hardware reserved." BIOS settings for the VRAM explain 2048MiB reserved, though 63MiB are unaccounted for. Task Manager does show 6081MiB available though, meaning everything except hardware reserved.

I assume that, if I were to upgrade to Windows 10, then this would be considered 8GiB and not 5.9GiB for the purposes of removing svchost. Obviously either amount would qualify, but what if I only have half the memory? I guess we'll figure it out when the update rolls out, won't we? thumb.gif

EDIT: Though it says it's using 37% the physical memory. So maybe it does neglect the hardware reserved value? I'm not sure. If you've got 4GB and integrated graphics and are having memory issues, it might not be a bad idea to give them more memory so svchost comes back if this is true.
Edited by CynicalUnicorn - 10/8/16 at 4:15pm
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Please do this for W7 thumb.gif
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