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QPAD 8K is literally a bigger Naos. Has much better ring and pinky support too.

The difference is marginal (yet, it still felt like it should have been a bit bigger). But the 8K switches felt horrible, so it was out of the question - regardless of shape.
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Using clay sculpt* a shape use a 3D scanner and then edit via CAD 3d print the resulant mouse shell install 3366/60 sensor viola custom mouse

Yes, I was thinking something in that direction. I just need to find a reliable "donor" with a good sensor and the functionality I want. Any suggestions?

Also: how hard is it to resolder switches?
   
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good to hear you're still at that! still quite curious how it will turn out biggrin.gif
have you (already) though about somehow applying some kind of coating to the shell after printing?

Yeah well, there are 2 options with coating: either paint it by hand after printing (afaik the material i'm gonna use is super easy to paint), or use painting option from 3d printing company. However for example shapeways offer painting only with polishing, which wrecks tiny details. And tiny details inside the mouse shell are the last thing i want wrecked. So i guess paint by hand is the preferred option. However i print at my local printing company which applies paint without polishing. Still not sure. I'll post something in my main thread when i get some improvement worthy of posting (i.e. when both innards and shape design are finished).
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The difference is marginal (yet, it still felt like it should have been a bit bigger). But the 8K switches felt horrible, so it was out of the question - regardless of shape.
Yes, I was thinking something in that direction. I just need to find a reliable "donor" with a good sensor and the functionality I want. Any suggestions?

Also: how hard is it to resolder switches?

3D scanner are very expensive. You could look for an engineering student, normally they can have access to that kind of hardware.
You could also try to design it and with trial and error end up with what you want. I am sure there's already some blueprint on the net of that (mouse or mouse shell).
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Zowie EC1-A with added weights ?
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The difference is marginal (yet, it still felt like it should have been a bit bigger). But the 8K switches felt horrible, so it was out of the question - regardless of shape.
Yes, I was thinking something in that direction. I just need to find a reliable "donor" with a good sensor and the functionality I want. Any suggestions?

Also: how hard is it to resolder switches?

3D scanner are very expensive. You could look for an engineering student, normally they can have access to that kind of hardware.
You could also try to design it and with trial and error end up with what you want. I am sure there's already some blueprint on the net of that (mouse or mouse shell).

Taken care off. I'm studying at the KULeuven university and know some people who have access to such tech. Printing would be done in the local fab-lab. Try and error would be costly in terms of printing. I'm probably going with a clay model that I'll edit afterwards.
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Zowie EC1-A with added weights ?

I'll likely go with something 3360 based.
   
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I'll likely go with something 3360 based.

Keep in mind, the perfect mouse doesn't exist. I'm happy with my G303 for example but i don't consider it perfect, it could be improved in many ways. The scroll, the exotic shape, the fact that it collect finger grease while my hands are super clean, etc...
Even if you get something tailored for you, the urge to try something else will finally win you over. They'll always be something you'll grow unhappy of.
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The G9x is EOL though. Will be hard to find a new one (or used in a good state).
Linky? tongue.gif
That's were the problem starts. I can barely find anything that fits my hand. Like I said, the Naos 7000 is usable for me, but by not optimal. Weight is easily solved indeed, but there little purpose in doing so if I can't fix the rest.
As for sensor, switches and scroll wheel: the latter 2 are rather important to me. I recently tried a Qpad 8K optical, but the switches felt like garbage. The travel distance was huge and the "trigger feedback" was terrible. I'm a heavy scroll wheel user, particularly in terms of clicking it (I prefer it over holding CTRL to open a page a new tab for example). Most of the mouses I've used to the point where they broke, involved a broken scroll wheel. Most of the time it was the clicking function.

And I have no problem admitting the fact that I'm very demanding biggrin.gif. I spent a lot of time behind my screen and have no problem burning loads of cash on my hobby (with Nvidia's current pricing being an exception rolleyes.gif), simply because I don't want the feeling I'm settling with something that annoys me.
Tried it at a friends place. Didn't feel ergonomic and was rather small.

This is the NAOS. The shape was OK, but I felt like it should have been like 10% bigger.


That's fine, I am rather picky as well. It is just that your initial post made it sound sound otherwise. In fact, the original post made it sound like you basically just wanted a heavier Naos.

I personally don't have any very large mice to suggest, as I have small hands and giant mice would fit me about as well as clown shoes, but I'm sure there is something out there larger than the Naos that isn't terrible. Once you find that, adding weight if needed, as you said yourself, is easy.

If you do want to go after a custom 3D printed shell, it can certainly be done, but you honestly might be better off buying your own 3D printer than contracting it out, as you will undoubtedly go through at least 10 revisions before you get it to feel right. Shape is one thing, but getting the right thickness of material in the right spots to allow buttons to feel right while still having enough structural support not to implode under the weight of your hand is going to be a very fine balancing act.

Also keep in mind that unless you have access to an extremely high quality (expensive) 3D printer, the raw results likely won't be as nice as you are going to want them to be. You're going to have to sand it down quite a bit to get it to feel nice, so print larger to compensate for the loss of material when sanding. End results will also be a lot less sturdy than something that was injection molded with the same design and material, so you're going to have to be mindful of how you treat the thing, or maybe print out a few extra shells to keep on hand.
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I'll likely go with something 3360 based.

Keep in mind, the perfect mouse doesn't exist. I'm happy with my G303 for example but i don't consider it perfect, it could be improved in many ways. The scroll, the exotic shape, the fact that it collect finger grease while my hands are super clean, etc...
Even if you get something tailored for you, the urge to try something else will finally win you over. They'll always be something you'll grow unhappy of.

Very wise words. Yet, if one doesn't strive for progress, one loses purpose. And losing purpose, would be the end of meaning.

All that philosophy aside, I'm not looking for absolute perfection. I'm looking for something that doesn't annoy or bother me. And it seems that a though task rolleyes.gif
   
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The difference is marginal (yet, it still felt like it should have been a bit bigger). But the 8K switches felt horrible, so it was out of the question - regardless of shape.
Yes, I was thinking something in that direction. I just need to find a reliable "donor" with a good sensor and the functionality I want. Any suggestions?

Also: how hard is it to resolder switches?

For wired logitech G pro for wireless/wired logitech G403 use the whole internal pcb assembly.
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Very wise words. Yet, if one doesn't strive for progress, one loses purpose. And losing purpose, would be the end of meaning.

It's all about balance between wanting more and better, and constant unsatisfaction.
Even NEO got tired of the Zowie FK.
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All that philosophy aside, I'm not looking for absolute perfection. I'm looking for something that doesn't annoy or bother me. And it seems that a though task rolleyes.gif

You seem to have very high standards, or special needs. Or both. The PMW3360 is just starting to spread itself around. You must be patient, or willing to shell out more money than usual for your ideal pointing device.
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