Originally Posted by Mand12
When your house is gone because the ocean rose above its roof, that's not an imagined crisis.
I know you'd love to rationalize this away as some leftist conspiracy to deprive you of your God-given right to not give a crap about anyone else, but it's just not the case.
well that escalated quickly. gonna call him hitler next?
seriously bro. I like to think I'm pretty environmentally friendly. I do all the little things most of my green friends would never deign to do themselves, but want to legislate everyone else do instead. I never owned an SUV, in fact, never owned a car that got less then 30mpg in my life.
The one thing i've never been sold on is CO2 being a significant enough greenhouse gas to affect global temps in enough of a manner to be significant. That's not to say CO2 being spewed into the atmosphere doesn't bug me, I like clean skys and water. I think the science behind CO2 damage to ocean ecosystems are far more impressive then the science on CO2 starting a global heatwave. Mankind does produce greenhouse gasses in conjunction with CO2, such as Methane, Nitrous Oxide and Sulphur Dioxide, of which the science is much stronger then that of CO2 for global warming. Heck, H20 aka water is a far more potent greenhouse gas than CO2.
The whole "climate change" argument is even worse then the "global warming" argument. Atleast global warming has concrete temperature records to support it's argument, even if the causes behind it are doubtful. Climate change is a moving goalpost with little actual science behind it and a whole lot of questionable motivation. The "climate change" movement developed out of warmers who saw their warming projections fail as global temps flatlined after 1998, so instead of sticking to their guns they tacked wildly into a dubious and unprovable climate change argument, so that they could point to any extreme local weather phenomenon and claim responsibility lay at man's doorstep.
Why can't environmentalists just be honest and ask for people to live in a clean world? why all this hysteria about nonsense which is almost impossible to prove is man's responsibility? I live in Phoenix Az, I'll tell you my more immediate concern then either global warming or climate change is the horrible air quality during rush hour. That's a serious living quality issue.Edited by azanimefan - 10/11/16 at 8:31am