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Ive been rocking the sig rig since 2010 without any upgrades..still sporting the 6870 lol....so anyways looking to build a new PC for fun/itch/better gaming performance.

Price really isnt that big of an issue but looking to try and stay around the $1,200-1,400 range

should I jump into skylake...or go with say the 6-core 5820k?

Im sure any new i7 will be "better" than my current one, but would there be more of and increase with a newer quad core skylake or the 5820k


the main use for this pc will be for gaming, web browsing, editing/design/production.....

future use: I would like to learn coding/autocad for 3d printing

future proofing doesnt seem like a big deal since they both support ddr4 memory and only 1 year apart from each other and ive seen some x99 mb with usb 3.1 type A&C...just looking for some input...

or try and ride it out and look at ZEN?
    
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You could get a little more mileage out of your current setup with a 6-core Xeon like an X5670. They tend to reach similar clocks at lower voltages than Bloomfield processors.

If you want an entirely new build, the i5-6600K is the best bang for your buck strictly for gaming. It sounds like you can make an i7-6700K fit in your budget and would take advantage of the additional threads. Gaming performance is comparable to the i5.

I've personally been using my X5670 for a little over a year and a half and I'm pleased. I'm waiting for Skylake-X before I seriously consider upgrading. I might also wait for Coffee Lake to bring 6 cores to mainstream.
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You could get a little more mileage out of your current setup with a 6-core Xeon like an X5670. They tend to reach similar clocks at lower voltages than Bloomfield processors.

If you want an entirely new build, the i5-6600K is the best bang for your buck strictly for gaming. It sounds like you can make an i7-6700K fit in your budget and would take advantage of the additional threads. Gaming performance is comparable to the i5.

I've personally been using my X5670 for a little over a year and a half and I'm pleased. I'm waiting for Skylake-X before I seriously consider upgrading. I might also wait for Coffee Lake to bring 6 cores to mainstream.


AHH see I looked into kaby lake and didnt see anything about 6-core; however, I see now that the 6-core is coffee lake like you said expected to hit around 2018 so with that being said I may hold off and do a GPU & SSD upgrade and overclock the 950 and push another year and half or so.
    
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You could still upgrade to a hexacore without having to change your motherboard. Here is an X5670 for around $70 shipped. The GPU and SSD purchases are money well spent as well.
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I use a 5820k in an all-purpose rig, and it's been rock solid for me for quite a while. I work in multimedia and 3D production, and I find the extra cores invaluable for this kind of work, far better than the Skylake i5 I'm using in another build.
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AHH see I looked into kaby lake and didnt see anything about 6-core; however, I see now that the 6-core is coffee lake like you said expected to hit around 2018 so with that being said I may hold off and do a GPU & SSD upgrade and overclock the 950 and push another year and half or so.

Yep - the CPU is not the bottleneck for most games. The only exception is if you play CPU intensive games (like Cities Skylines or the Total War series) that could use the extra CPU performance.

By far the biggest gain that you will get is upgrading the GPU and perhaps an SSD. Just get a 6 core Xeon, saving you the price of the new motherboard, RAM (you'll need DDR4 for Skylake), and perhaps other components like cooling.


I'd say, get the best price to performance GPU and a good sized SSD for a boot drive. You could get a good TLC drive these days, or if you don't trust TLC (I have my reservations), an affordable MLC drive. Amongst the TLC choices, the 850 Evo is the top choice, with 850 Pro being the top MLC drive. There are cheaper drives though. Look on Black Friday for sales.

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I use a 5820k in an all-purpose rig, and it's been rock solid for me for quite a while. I work in multimedia and 3D production, and I find the extra cores invaluable for this kind of work, far better than the Skylake i5 I'm using in another build.

Despite the slower single threaded performance (about 10-15% from a slightly lower clock speed and lower IPC performance), the extra cores of the HEDT platform make it better for anything that uses multiple threads. Amongst embarrassingly parallel applications and those that can use the extra RAM bandwidth from quad channel, it is not a competition.
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I wouldn't spend too much for a SSD given the SATA bottleneck. There's no telling where the price of NVMe drives will be in two years. An EVO or X400 would be a tremendous value today. I bought my 850 PRO on Black Friday two years ago for $150. About three months later, it was available for $130. Sales are happening all the time so just pull the trigger when you see a price you're willing to pay.
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