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the IoT movement is utter Bull clap, I am not looking forward to it myself.
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There is a problem with self driving vehicles. Not everyone lives right near cities, or will have the ability to afford such a car. Plus, good luck getting farmers on that. A lot of individuals out here use trucks for off roading, farm work, hunting, etc. I highly doubt self driving vehicles can handle such tasks.

I like the idea of electrical vehicles, but where the heck is the trucks or SUVs that are electric?
 
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Originally Posted by lombardsoup View Post

All you'd need to do is bring up the fact that those same destruction prone humans are the ones making self driving cars. For legislators to believe that self driving cars are somehow infallible is a mistake.

Nothing is infallible, but it's hard to even imagine a scenario where self-driving cars don't eventually outdo human drivers by enormous margins in virtually all areas. When that happens, and it will, many are going to consider manually operated vehicles to be unnecessary and risky...and from a pure functionality outlook, they'll probably be right.
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A lot of individuals out here use trucks for off roading, farm work, hunting, etc. I highly doubt self driving vehicles can handle such tasks.

Even if manually operated vehicles are categorically banned from public roads, none of that would have an impact on what people do on their own property, not directly anyway.
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Originally Posted by Blameless View Post

Nothing is infallible

You are correct.
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There is a problem with self driving vehicles. Not everyone lives right near cities, or will have the ability to afford such a car. Plus, good luck getting farmers on that. A lot of individuals out here use trucks for off roading, farm work, hunting, etc. I highly doubt self driving vehicles can handle such tasks.

I like the idea of electrical vehicles, but where the heck is the trucks or SUVs that are electric?

There are self driving semis, tractors, etc, but even those are on diesel/biodiesel/ethanol mixes.
Edited by lombardsoup - 10/22/16 at 9:53am
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Even if manually operated vehicles are categorically banned from public roads, none of that would have an impact on what people do on their own property, not directly anyway.

You must not live near farm land. Farmers use public roads to move their equipment from field to field. They use their trucks to move hay, farm animals, etc. from area to area by public roads. Plus, on hunting. I drive a hour to one of my relative's large properties to go hunt. So do pray tell how then how could I avoid public roads.

I don't mind self driving vehicles (I actually think they are great especially for elderly people who can no longer drive themselves), but I highly doubt the government will straight out ban non self driving vehicles in our life time.
 
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Simple, don't buy a Tesla.

Don't reward companies who don't know what the meaning of buying is.

Here's the problem... there are no competitors yet. frown.gif
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You must not live near farm land. Farmers use public roads to move their equipment from field to field. They use their trucks to move hay, farm animals, etc. from area to area by public roads. Plus, on hunting. I drive a hour to one of my relative's large properties to go hunt. So do pray tell how then how could I avoid public roads.

I don't mind self driving vehicles (I actually think they are great especially for elderly people who can no longer drive themselves), but I highly doubt the government will straight out ban non self driving vehicles in our life time.

And its not merely farming. Imagine what that would do the mining industry, constructions firms, etc.
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You must not live near farm land. Farmers use public roads to move their equipment from field to field. They use their trucks to move hay, farm animals, etc. from area to area by public roads. Plus, on hunting. I drive a hour to one of my relative's large properties to go hunt. So do pray tell how then how could I avoid public roads.

What type of non legal offroad vehicle are you driving for an hour on pubic roads? Get a trailer if anything...
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What type of non legal offroad vehicle are you driving for an hour on pubic roads? Get a trailer if anything...

This is commonplace in major US agriculture states. Often times with the way farm zoning (where you're allowed to have farmland) is laid out, the only way to get to the next property is via public roads.
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This is commonplace in major US agriculture states. Often times with the way farm zoning (where you're allowed to have farmland) is laid out, the only way to get to the next property is via public roads.

 

Yup.

There are a lot of exemptions for certain types of vehicles to use public road ways.

The FMVSS really only applies to certain commercial and passenger vehicles, as do most federal and state safety and emissions laws.

 
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