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[TH] SSDs Kill The 15K HDD, Seagate Rolls Out Last Generation

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#1 ·
Well, Well. The end of the HDD is Nigh!! Lot's of info in this article about the demise of the HDD.
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The venerable 15K HDD is singing its swan song as Seagate introduces its sixth-generation Enterprise Performance 15K HDD v6, which will be the last mission-critical 15K HDD the company produces.

Seagate representatives indicated that the company is not working on future generations of 15K HDDs due to the proliferation of SSDs. The 15K's overdue demise isn't entirely unexpected; in fact, we've been expecting it for some time as the HDD vendors retreat into the "cheap and deep" space with their high-capacity 3.5" HDDs in tow.
In some respects, Seagate is on the outside looking in on the flash market; its two primary rivals (WD and Toshiba) have NAND fabs, and it does not. The stand-offish strategy does not bode well for a company that is obviously ceding market segments to SSDs, and many expect Seagate to buy or merge its way into a NAND fab (my bet is on Micron).


http://www.tomshardware.com/news/seagate-hdd-15k-ssd-enterprise,32920.html


 
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Originally Posted by adre View Post

No Seagate please don't enter the SSD market and ruin it with your bad quality products.
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#6 ·
Reminds of of the days when we thought the WD Velociraptor was all that and a bag of chips!
 
#7 ·
Not surprised at all.

Several years back, since the first gen of SSD were released, I already predicted the doom and fall of SAS drives, specially those 10K and 15K drives

SATA is still relevant only because of the gigantic sizes at super low cost and semi-decent performance for large storage, but for speed, SSD would always bee a better choice than 10K or 15K drives, or even the rare 20K drives that runs ridiculously burning Hot.
 
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Originally Posted by starliner View Post

Don't worry, Samsung has enough FW issues to take up that slack. If anything, Seagate might actually be better, since there aren't any moving parts
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nah Samsung are only getting their bad reps from the Phone market, because on the PC side, the SSD has always been the Top choice for most people, as it has been year after year building a strong bench over other brands, and most sales, also most renown name for SSD, with the best performance and reliability.

WD and Seagate just recently started their SSD production, we'll see how they fair vs. the long time champs like the well known: Corsair, Crucial, Samsung, Kingston, Adata, SanDisk, Mushkin, Intel, etc.
 
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

They're already in the SSD market and they have very solid drives for the money.
Enterprise market yes, but that Seagate 600 of yours is the only consumer drive they've released, apart from some external drives perhaps.

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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

Except for the 840 series in all of its variants, you mean.

You know, those that, for no apparent reason and against all updates from Samsung repeatedly and decidedly axed their own performance.
My regular 840s are fine, thank you very much.

840 EVOs though. Those were interesting with fun issues.
 
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Originally Posted by CynicalUnicorn View Post

Enterprise market yes, but that Seagate 600 of yours is the only consumer drive they've released, apart from some external drives perhaps.
My regular 840s are fine, thank you very much.

840 EVOs though. Those were interesting with fun issues.
I'm amazed your 840s are fine, considering those had the same issues as the 840 Evo, but never received a firmware update to fix it. Maybe you got ridiculously lucky and the issue hasn't reared its head magically.
 
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Originally Posted by BiG StroOnZ View Post

SSD's are more likely to be damaged by an EMP compared to an HDD.
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I think optical media wins if that's what you're aiming for. Blu-rays hold like 50GB each.

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Originally Posted by Kinaesthetic View Post

I'm amazed your 840s are fine, considering those had the same issues as the 840 Evo, but never received a firmware update to fix it. Maybe you got ridiculously lucky and the issue hasn't reared its head magically.
There was a performance bug with the 840 EVOs' pseudo-SLC cache, and there was a randomly-erases-data bug that was due to the Linux kernel IIRC. I think it ended up being a controller issue...? Can't remember the details.
 
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Originally Posted by lombardsoup View Post

So they're still prevalent.

Been using SSD's for at least three years now, haven't looked back. I had firmware issues with an old Corsair Force (and have since avoided their SSD's), but that's about it.
SSDs aren't an affordable option for anyone with massive storage needs, plus I'd imagine almost every single 360/xbox one/ps3/ps4 are purely mechanical
 
#24 ·
My setup has 3x SSD's for games + programs + files used often. Then two 10k rpm raptors (500gb & 600gb) used for older games and general storage. Then a 2tb 5400pm for long term storage / backups.

15k drives are just not worth it, if you are looking to get that kind of performance a ssd is really your only option and easily surpasses those drives. If you refuse to go for an SSD the raptors are the closest you'll get these days and they are a dying if not dead breed already.
 
#25 ·
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Originally Posted by lombardsoup View Post

Are there any relevant usage statistics I could look at? I'm curious to see how many people are still using mechanical hard drives.
Solid state storage is used in basically all tablets and smartphones. I'd wager that 1% of desktops have them and 10% of laptops have them, or 99% of desktops have HDDs and 90% of laptops.

Sources? My rear end; I have no idea honestly. However, most 15"+ laptops and nearly all desktops have them at prices under $1000. Smaller 11" amd 13" laptops use SATA SSDs if not eMMC (SD card soldered to the motherboard in effect). But give it time, and the desire for smaller and more efficient systems, as well as ever-cheaper flash storage will push HDDs out of the consumer market entirely.

Archival drives will still have a use though. Google uses magnetic tapes for their backups to this day for example. It's pretty impressive that the tech has held on as long as it has. HDDs aren't too different from floppy drives conceptually.
 
#26 ·
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Originally Posted by CynicalUnicorn View Post

Solid state storage is used in basically all tablets and smartphones. I'd wager that 1% of desktops have them and 10% of laptops have them, or 99% of desktops have HDDs and 90% of laptops.

Sources? My rear end; I have no idea honestly. However, most 15"+ laptops and nearly all desktops have them at prices under $1000. Smaller 11" amd 13" laptops use SATA SSDs if not eMMC (SD card soldered to the motherboard in effect). But give it time, and the desire for smaller and more efficient systems, as well as ever-cheaper flash storage will push HDDs out of the consumer market entirely.

Archival drives will still have a use though. Google uses magnetic tapes for their backups to this day for example. It's pretty impressive that the tech has held on as long as it has. HDDs aren't too different from floppy drives conceptually.
So basically, it'll take years to phase HDD's out.

I looked earlier but could only find HDD failure statistics and Steam surveys, with the latter only having hard drive size info.
 
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