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I have an Asus Hero VIII Alpha mother board. It has a PWM for both fan control and pump for the CPU. If I was just cooling the CPU I would just wire stuff up this way but I want to cool the GPU too. I plan on running an Asus 1080 video card. How should I wire my fans and pump? Can you over cool parts? If I run the CPU and GPU on the same water loop can I still run the fans and pump off the motherboard or could that over heat the GPU? If I am running both CPU and GPU on the same line should I run the pump 100% all the time and just run the radiator fans off the water temp? I notice the GPU I want has a fan header on it. Can I use this to run a pump instead and run the fan for the radiator off the water temp if doing a split system? Are the fans and pumps ran on the same voltage and frequency and can I put a PWM pump in place of a PWM fan? Am I over thinking this? How is every one wiring there cooling system?
post #2 of 13
I think your overthinking. For your pump most peoples find their system sweet spot, set and forget. This sweet spot could be anywhere for 50 to 100%. You would like to shoot for some where around 1-1.5 g/m. The most efficient way to control pwm fans would be off coolant temp. That way it does not matter if the CPU or GPU is loaded. The fans will respond. You can do dual loops if you like. One loop for CPU and one loop for GPUs. This is total up to you. If running dual loops you would control them based on each loops coolant temp. If this is your first build. My advice would be keep it simple go with one loop. I do not believe you can overcool your components. People will use chillers or even liquid nitrogen to cool their system.

I don't know about running a pump off of the GPU fan header. Pumps generally take more power to start/run than fans. You could run the risk of burning out the header. You will need to look at the tech specs of the header and pump.

You just need to verify you have enough RAD space to keep the components cool.
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I run all of my pumps off a molex connector (100%) and haven't had a problem. DDC pumps with Heatsinks.

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post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by TheCautiousOne View Post

I run all of my pumps off a molex connector (100%) and haven't had a problem. DDC pumps with Heatsinks.

TCO

I had to look up what your talking about hahaha. I like the idea, this might be how I do my set up.
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by Joe383 View Post

I had to look up what your talking about hahaha. I like the idea, this might be how I do my set up.

Well some pumps have an option for PWM (A variable to run the pump at a certain speed, 50% etc) or Molex directly hooked up to a perif on the PSU at 100%.... So that might make things easier.

Here is a DDC with an EK DDC Pump Top and a Bitspower Silver DDC heatsink.



The Blue and Green wire in the rear of this DDC are the PMW Wires, the Yellow and Black are the Molex Connections.



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LOL that's funny that is the exact pump and heat sink I found when I looked up what you were talking about. I have been looking at the EK stuff for about a week and will probably be getting a few of my parts from them.
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LOL that's funny that is the exact pump and heat sink I found when I looked up what you were talking about. I have been looking at the EK stuff for about a week and will probably be getting a few of my parts from them.

If you are going to watercool, I would imagine you will be getting more than a few. thumb.gif

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post #9 of 13
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I run all of my pumps off a molex connector (100%) and haven't had a problem. DDC pumps with Heatsinks.

TCO

Just don't do this with 18W variants. Me (and many others) have had their pumps catch fire if the whole loop resistance is too low.
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Just don't do this with 18W variants. Me (and many others) have had their pumps catch fire if the whole loop resistance is too low.

I have used all 18w Variants and yet to have that problem, hence the Heatsink and proper airflow. I do not doubt the problems you have had though.

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