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I'm going to put 8 Western Digital Red drives into Raid setup(Windows 10 OS). If my motherboard doesn't have enough sata ports. Is their some kind of Raid controller or Pcei Sata card I can buy if so which one should I buy?

Also what Raid setup is best to use, I was thinking of going with Raid 6. I'm mainly going to be using this are storage & for some playback of 4K videos.
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I've used HTP (RocketRaid) cards for many years and never (never) had a fault with them. I started with an entry level card ending up with a RocketRAID 2722 a few years ago.

I run my HDs in two external enclosures but HTP also do cards with internal connectors. Their BOIS allows you to create a RAID prior to your PC BIOS loading, so you can have your OS on a RAID set also. So in effect when your PC BIOS loads it will see your RAID as a normal (very big) single disk but in fact if can be a RAID 5 set, or any other type of RAID set you create.

It depends on how much you want to pay, the more expensive the better and safer the performance.

http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA_new/series_rr272x.htm
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Do the higher-end HighPoint cards actually deliver better performance with a simple RAID 0?

This is pretty rarefied air; I'm having trouble finding ANY real world performance data.

-Noel
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If you only need ports why not just get a SAS HBA and some SAS to sata breakout cables?
 
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I'm not sure RAID 0 would warrant investing in a hardware RAID card, SSDs and dedicated cards that support two SSDs in a RAID 0 set, not sure a high end RAID card would being any benefits.

Its when you want to get into the more complex RAID sets is where parity and other calculations need to be done benefit more cuz the card can do the calculations independently form the computers CPU.

RAID 0 sets cannot be rebuilt, when you get into redundant RAID sets the hardware needs to be able to recover from disk failures and the user inserting a new (blank) disk to recover the RAID.

I've been really really wanting ZFS to be supported in hardware...but still nothing...still stuck with RAID. I would have thought its a no-brainer for someone to release a card with ZFS implemented in hardware.
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ZFS will never be supported via hardware because it is a FILE SYSTEM not a hardware RAID. Big difference. If you a re going to run ZFS you cannot run it on a RAID since it itself has RAID functionality built in. Addtionally, it does not suffer from many of the failings of things like RAID 5 and RAID 6 suffer from (write hole error). Then you got self-healing and redunency built into it plus the ability to do snapshots.

RAIDs will never support such features ever.


I think you have a bit of a misinformation or lack of understanding in regards to the whole RAID/ZFS etc thing.

Sorry to come across as a butt here but I need to make sure I nip this entire thing here and now. Misinformation will only lead to confusion or possibility of someone doing something that could cause harm or loss of some kind (monetarily or otherwise).

EDIT:

@OP:

What RAID are looking you looking to do (0, 5, 10, etc)? Do you need to use RAID or can you get away with JBOD? Do you have any specific requirements? Are you going to use hardware or software RAID? What are you plans for said RAID? Will you have a backup?* What data will be stored on the RAID? What kind of load are you expecting file access wise (how many people and how much data to and from) to the system you are building?

*RAID is not a backup. Please make sure you have one regardless of what you are doing.

If you answer these I can probably point you in the right direction of some decent hardware. If you are also willing to use second hand or used server stuff you can save quite a bit of money too.
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