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[techreport] AMD's fortunes rise as more graphics cards move in Q3 2016

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AMD still has a long way to go to reach parity with Nvidia's share of graphics add-in board shipments, though. The green team still holds a dominant position in the market, even as its share fell from 81.1% to 70.9%. Since good ol' S3 barely even registers in JPR's radar, AMD's gains have moved its position from 18.8% to 29.1% of the total market.

As a whole, the graphics card industry has enjoyed a 9.2% year-on-year increase in shipments, confirming that gamers are responding to the release of graphics cards fabricated on next-gen process tech. JPR says as much, saying that "PC gaming momentum continues to build," and that market demand for gaming PCs is "robust." The firm also notes that the 38.2% sequential increase in quarterly graphics card shipments is well above the ten-year average of 14.3% for this time of year.
http://techreport.com/news/31005/report-amd-fortunes-rise-as-more-graphics-cards-move-in-q3-2016
 
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Awesome news. Thats great growth in the market. Go AMD. We need you to have money to become competitive again.
 
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It's time for a third discrete GPU manufacture. Just another company that can put out products when AMD and Nvidia are resting.
Only incompetence can allow AMD to wait this long to ship a competing high end product.
 
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Originally Posted by WorldExclusive View Post

It's time for a third discrete GPU manufacture. Just another company that can put out products when AMD and Nvidia are resting.
Only incompetence can allow AMD to wait this long to ship a competing high end product.
Ditto, I was looking to upgrade from my 290x but neither the 390x or the 480 isn't worth spending the money on a new gpu for performance.
 
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Originally Posted by WorldExclusive View Post

It's time for a third discrete GPU manufacture. Just another company that can put out products when AMD and Nvidia are resting.
Only incompetence can allow AMD to wait this long to ship a competing high end product.
They should just merge into NVIDIAMD and start selling X80 for $999, Titan for $1500, X80 Ti for $1249, X70 for $799, X60 for $599
 
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Originally Posted by WorldExclusive View Post

It's time for a third discrete GPU manufacture. Just another company that can put out products when AMD and Nvidia are resting.
Only incompetence can allow AMD to wait this long to ship a competing high end product.
Is there enough prospect in the GPU market to warrant a third party?
 
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Originally Posted by Mand12 View Post

Does it matter?
In a way it does. In terms of cards sold for AMD, it does not matter, but, in terms of support for games, it does. The bigger the market share in gaming specifically, the more incentive developers have to optimize for AMD's hardware. If all the cards go to miners, developers will keep optimizing more for nVidia cards, which in turn means AMD cards perform worse, which in turn means AMD's reputation of making inferior cards is enforced, even though it's a complete software issue, which in turn means lower sales among gamers and more sales towards miners.

And so the circle continues.
 
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Originally Posted by NightAntilli View Post

In a way it does. In terms of cards sold for AMD, it does not matter, but, in terms of support for games, it does. The bigger the market share in gaming specifically, the more incentive developers have to optimize for AMD's hardware. If all the cards go to miners, developers will keep optimizing more for nVidia cards, which in turn means AMD cards perform worse, which in turn means AMD's reputation of making inferior cards is enforced, even though it's a complete software issue, which in turn means lower sales among gamers and more sales towards miners.

And so the circle continues.
Developers will optimize so that an acceptable level of performance is realized from hardware regardless of vendor. Your average developer won't go all out to draw every ounce of performance unless it's absolutely required for their game. This is where AMD/NVIDIA support comes in and Nvidia has been better at it for a long time now, hence why they are ahead. AMD's support is improving but can always be better.
 
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Originally Posted by Kinaesthetic View Post

I'm curious how many of those are Etherium miners though...
Ask @TheLAWNOOB with his 14 or something 480s
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Originally Posted by budgetgamer120 View Post

I don't think this is relevant.
Market share isn't affected by what people use their gpu for.
Of course it is when they need to discredit AMD
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(I'm bad at math bare that in mind with my next question lol) Is it safe to assume that AMD captured all the new growth and then some?
Hopefully that's a sign of things to come, I'm buying a Nvidia GPU soon but will swap out to a high end AMD GPU as soon as it's available.
 
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For whatever reason this article fails to mention that AMD LOST Marketshare in Q3.



So all that gained Marketshare prior of Q3 was due to the 300 series and NOT Polaris.
 
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Originally Posted by dmasteR View Post

For whatever reason this article fails to mention that AMD LOST Marketshare in Q3.



So all that gained Marketshare prior of Q3 was due to the 300 series and NOT Polaris.
The article says the same thing that graph says. 29% for Amd vs 70% for Nvidia.

Can you post links showing that the marketshare was as a result of 300 series and not polaris?
 
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Originally Posted by budgetgamer120 View Post

The article says the same thing that graph says. 29% for Amd vs 70% for Nvidia.

Can you post links showing that the marketshare was as a result of 300 series and not polaris?
Polaris didn't come out until Q3, what more do you need? Which is when AMD lost a small percentage of marketshare .8%.
 
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Polaris didn't come out until Q3, what more do you need? Which is when AMD lost a small percentage of marketshare .8%.
I don't understand how you came to the conclusion that polaris had no effect on this.

Q3 starts July and ends September. Polaris had plenty time to be sold. Some stores don't even carry 300 series anymore.
 
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Originally Posted by budgetgamer120 View Post

I don't understand how you came to the conclusion that polaris had no effect on this.

Q3 starts July and ends September. Polaris had plenty time to be sold. Some stores don't even carry 300 series anymore.
Read my post again.
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So all that gained Marketshare prior of Q3 was due to the 300 series and NOT Polaris.
NVIDIA definitely gained market share due to their higher end cards in Q3 in the "Polaris/Pascal era".
 
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Originally Posted by budgetgamer120 View Post

That is what you are saying. Where is the data?

Where is the data that shows AMD didn't gain market share due to polaris. Polaris was made to gain market share.
You can surely read the graph correct?



29.1% Q3

29.9% Q2.
 
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Is there enough prospect in the GPU market to warrant a third party?
Machine learning, mobile and VR are great markets to get into, along with an established workstation and gaming community.
With MS now bringing console games to PC, we will see people have consoles and PCs for gaming. That very attractive because discrete gaming should increase over time.

I just think that if one falters like AMD, the other can't boost prices because a third will fill the void.
Only in PCs we have two players, were many other tech sectors have 3+ competitors.
 
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Originally Posted by NightAntilli View Post

This video seems suitable for this thread. It's half an hour, but definitely worth watching...

Short version; even when AMD wins in power consumption and price/performance, people buy nVidia anyway.

Not AdoredTV again.

How can anyone even watch this?

This is the same guy that said the Fury X is faster than a GTX 1080. Leave this on Reddit where it belongs.

 
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AMD still has a long way to go to reach parity with Nvidia's share of graphics add-in board shipments, though. The green team still holds a dominant position in the market, even as its share fell from 81.1% to 70.9%. Since good ol' S3 barely even registers in JPR's radar, AMD's gains have moved its position from 18.8% to 29.1% of the total market.

As a whole, the graphics card industry has enjoyed a 9.2% year-on-year increase in shipments, confirming that gamers are responding to the release of graphics cards fabricated on next-gen process tech. JPR says as much, saying that "PC gaming momentum continues to build," and that market demand for gaming PCs is "robust." The firm also notes that the 38.2% sequential increase in quarterly graphics card shipments is well above the ten-year average of 14.3% for this time of year.
http://techreport.com/news/31005/report-amd-fortunes-rise-as-more-graphics-cards-move-in-q3-2016
I get how much you love AMD and wants everybody to hear your version of facts but you already posted it before. It's from a different website but original source is JPR.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1617142/anandtech-discrete-desktop-gpu-market-trends-q3-2016-gpu-shipments-hit-two-year-high#post_25676946
 
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