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$500?

Highway robbery. But we'll see if it'll beat intel and worthy of it's pricetag when it drops.

I'd plonk the dough on it if it beat Intel.
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Originally Posted by Aussiejuggalo View Post

A Sandy core for core is still better than nothing. Isn't Sandy only 30% behind Skylake anyway?

I'd still take Sandy performance with 8c 16t over paying $1500 for X99 8c (yes they are that expensive in Aus).
Depends on the clocks.

I was hoping for something that would at least be an upgrade from Gulftown @ 4.3GHz, but this might not be it.
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I haven't read anything about Zen, its confirmed that all will have SMT enabled?
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A 3930k can be had for around $150, a RIVE can be had for about $200-250, it'll OC between 4.6-4.8GHz and people call this a success? What some would call the noble goal of supporting the underdog, others would see it as a scam for what they're asking.

If you defend this pricing, then how can you criticize Intel's pricing?
Edited by bigkahuna360 - 11/26/16 at 12:24am
     
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Originally Posted by FattysGoneWild View Post

Tell me that is a really early horrible April fools joke? Because if that is true. AMD just needs to close shop. Bulldozer all over again. rolleyes.gif I want to hit AMD like a pinata. It makes my i7 4790k seem light years ahead.

My understanding is that the IPC is almost identical to Haswell, however it has very low clockspeeds
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A 3930k can be had for around $150, a RIVE can be had for about $200-250, it'll OC between 4.6-4.8GHz and people call this a success? What some would call the noble goal of supporting the underdog, others would see it as a scam for what they're asking.

If you defend this pricing, then how can you criticize Intel's pricing?

3930k boards are getting old, they lack some obvious features. As I said, these new AMD processors have to have IPC of around Haswell, as they put the 'sr7' up against an 8-core, 16-thread Haswell-E (both clocked at 3Ghz), and "won". So we can assume it will compete against Haswell-E quite handily. The issue will become, can they sustain the same high clock speeds?

intel would be wise to up IPC and core clock dramatically with Kaby Lake if they want to remain as profitable as possible without doing any work, like they've managed to do for the past few years.

intel making a mainstream 6-core processor only serves to alleviate AMD's issues, which is the exact opposite of what a competitor is supposed to do.
Edited by Buris - 11/26/16 at 12:51am
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Zen having SB performance wouldn't be catastrophic per se, but somebody has to buy those and the question is, who would?

Even at overall SB IPC (which I think is probably a bit of a low-ball figure, but may well be accurate for single threaded performance), the supposedly $500 Zen would have a solid chance at matching any new Haswell-E or Broadwell-E in raw price/performance and an 8c/16t part at $350 would be a steal.
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Power has been rumoured to be 95w for the SR7, if this is true than AMD have beat Intel in terms of power consumption

TDP is a largely arbitrary figure only loosely correlated with power consumption.

I'd be very surprised if a 95w Zen consumed less power than the equivalent Intel part at the same level of performance.
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Originally Posted by bigkahuna360 View Post

If you defend this pricing, then how can you criticize Intel's pricing?

If I was overly critical of Intel's pricing, I probably wouldn't have five Intel hex core systems (i7 970, Xeon X5670, i7-4930K, i7-5820K and an i7-6800K).
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Originally Posted by gwertyu View Post

I haven't read anything about Zen, its confirmed that all will have SMT enabled?

i don't know if this is confirmed or not, but I would be astounded if they were disabling SMT.
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I like how OCN likes to pick and choose when used parts are qualified for discussion.

Its quite ironic to me, at least.
    
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Originally Posted by bigkahuna360 View Post

A 3930k can be had for around $150, a RIVE can be had for about $200-250, it'll OC between 4.6-4.8GHz and people call this a success? What some would call the noble goal of supporting the underdog, others would see it as a scam for what they're asking.

If you defend this pricing, then how can you criticize Intel's pricing?

A 3930K can be had for $150-250 if you get lucky and a RIVE can be had for $200-500 if you even manage to find one.*

FIFY

If you want truly cheap and powerful hardware you have to look at used server/workstation from auctions.
Edited by Gilles3000 - 11/26/16 at 1:37am
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Was going to pull the trigger on X99 platform paired with a 6900K but definitely going to wait for this.
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I like how OCN likes to pick and choose when used parts are qualified for discussion.

Its quite ironic to me, at least.

I always consider used parts, but there is a need to weight feature sets, and platform availability. I can get OEM Westmere pulls that annihilate any other x86 CPU in existence in bang for the buck, but it's getting very difficult to find capable LGA-1366 motherboards that don't cost a fortune and the platform is starting to show it's age in many areas.

Personally, I will almost certainly have LGA-1366 setups long after my AM3+ setups are scraped. However, given how many people ignored such setups when Bulldozer and later Vishera first cropped up, I'm never surprised at others being dismissive of used parts.
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