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Originally Posted by Agent-A01 View Post

Defrag and optimize drives > run optimize and that forces whole drive to be trimmed.

right, this is what i meaned thumb.gif
post #1152 of 1239
Which program to use for testing, if drive has some problems?
post #1153 of 1239
We have 600+ Dell Latitude laptops, with 170 of them being E7470 laptops, which support NVMe drives.

On a few E7470's & we added a Samsung 1TB 960 Pro M.2 NVME drives to them for testing. It is set to RAID on & legacy bios bootup in bios (not set to UEFI). I was able to load Windows 10 & everything is working as normal.

However, in the Bios HDD password under security, & the option is not there so I can enable it.. The actual option in the bios --> Security --> "Internal HDD-1 Password" is missing. Since this & most SSD's have full disk encryption already enabled, putting this ATA password makes the drive encrypted compliant (the ata password gets stored in the non-volatile memory of the SSD & is encrypted).

We have tried every option in the bios (setting admin/system password), changing to UEFI, AHCI, etc..

I am running the latest version of the Dell bios. Running the latest firmware for the Samsung 960.

When we put in another (non-NVMe drive) back into the E7470, the HD password option is there again. Dell is saying it is an issue with the Samsung 960 & that Dell supports ATA passwords on NVMe drives.

Anyone else set HD passwordson this SSD; especially anyone with a Dell?

Any ideas?
Thx
post #1154 of 1239
Hi All,

An issue I have with the 960 pro 500GB and my Asus x99-a ii - tested in both in bios version 1401 and 1504 is that if you set Launch CSM to "disable" and then save then reboot the drive disappears. Its on the latest firmware 2B6QCXP7.

A restore from defaults will make the drive visible again.

Oh was chatting with Samsung re drives not being seen in Magician 5.xx - turns out this version needs to talk to a serial DB on their backend. They had problems with their servers this weekend, therefore software didn't work. Seems silly that this is the way their software behaves.

Thanks
post #1155 of 1239
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Originally Posted by ryward View Post

Hi All,

An issue I have with the 960 pro 500GB and my Asus x99-a ii - tested in both in bios version 1401 and 1504 is that if you set Launch CSM to "disable" and then save then reboot the drive disappears. Its on the latest firmware 2B6QCXP7.

A restore from defaults will make the drive visible again.

Oh was chatting with Samsung re drives not being seen in Magician 5.xx - turns out this version needs to talk to a serial DB on their backend. They had problems with their servers this weekend, therefore software didn't work. Seems silly that this is the way their software behaves.

Thanks

had the same problem. You have to make your device totally powerless for few seconds so RAM and/or every hibernation file is flushed, then the drive will reconiced again (sorry english isn´t my first language)
post #1156 of 1239
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Originally Posted by bo1983 View Post

right, this is what i meaned thumb.gif

Oh this... it's scheduled long ago. No effect.
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Originally Posted by ryward View Post

Hi All,

An issue I have with the 960 pro 500GB and my Asus x99-a ii - tested in both in bios version 1401 and 1504 is that if you set Launch CSM to "disable" and then save then reboot the drive disappears. Its on the latest firmware 2B6QCXP7.

A restore from defaults will make the drive visible again.

Oh was chatting with Samsung re drives not being seen in Magician 5.xx - turns out this version needs to talk to a serial DB on their backend. They had problems with their servers this weekend, therefore software didn't work. Seems silly that this is the way their software behaves.

Thanks

Is your drive with the Windows? If yes then you need install OS in UEFI mode (or convert your current OS mode to UEFI).
post #1157 of 1239
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Originally Posted by soso999 View Post

We have 600+ Dell Latitude laptops, with 170 of them being E7470 laptops, which support NVMe drives.

On a few E7470's & we added a Samsung 1TB 960 Pro M.2 NVME drives to them for testing. It is set to RAID on & legacy bios bootup in bios (not set to UEFI). I was able to load Windows 10 & everything is working as normal.

However, in the Bios HDD password under security, & the option is not there so I can enable it.. The actual option in the bios --> Security --> "Internal HDD-1 Password" is missing. Since this & most SSD's have full disk encryption already enabled, putting this ATA password makes the drive encrypted compliant (the ata password gets stored in the non-volatile memory of the SSD & is encrypted).

We have tried every option in the bios (setting admin/system password), changing to UEFI, AHCI, etc..

I am running the latest version of the Dell bios. Running the latest firmware for the Samsung 960.

When we put in another (non-NVMe drive) back into the E7470, the HD password option is there again. Dell is saying it is an issue with the Samsung 960 & that Dell supports ATA passwords on NVMe drives.

Anyone else set HD passwordson this SSD; especially anyone with a Dell?

Any ideas?
Thx

Did you try using a different brand NVMe drive to verify whether or not the problem is caused by the Samsung drive?
Did you try with the Raid option set to off?
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post #1158 of 1239
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I'm totally agree about zero REAL difference. I mean another moment - Samsung released firmware, that constantly broke thier own speedtest (or speeds itself). It's not OK in my opinion.

U said: "Nevermind, no real difference, just use the drive and have fun". If there is no explanation about speed-drop or solution i will "have fun". But my perfectionist is crying biggrin.gif

I'm about to drop almost $2000 on a custom loop to get the best performance, not just in frame rates but also in temperatures. I care about the numbers whether I can notice it or not.

 

It would be nice to figure out if perf is hurt by firmware or Magician is broken by firmware. Latter seems weird but so is a firmware handed out like it's all prim and proper while it's not.

   
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post #1159 of 1239
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Originally Posted by Darkwizzie View Post

I'm about to drop almost $2000 on a custom loop to get the best performance, not just in frame rates but also in temperatures. I care about the numbers whether I can notice it or not.

It would be nice to figure out if perf is hurt by firmware or Magician is broken by firmware. Latter seems weird but so is a firmware handed out like it's all prim and proper while it's not.

WOW! Of what your loop is consist? By the way, how do you perform cooling for NVE drive?
Mine have AquaComputer waterblock (for PCI-E extension card where ssd is), but not in the loop right now. Use it like simple heatsink biggrin.gif
post #1160 of 1239
The problem with overly zealous benchmarking on an SSD is depleting its FOB-ish status to steady state far quicker than it typically does.

I'm seeing some guys with host write stats I've achieved only on an SSD's 4-5th year extended use. There's no turning back on SSD degradation.

Otherwise, the changelogs of the firmware pushed via magician previously are finally out "Enhanced compatibility and stability for systems supporting PCIe."
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