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#1 ·
hello everyone I would like to make air cooling system what need for full fan case master cooler trooper ?
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Monitor 4k 40 inch
case master cooler trooper

mother
Asus 970 pro gaming/aura

CPU
AMD FX-8350

GPU
ASUS ROG STRIX Radeon Rx 480 8GB
ASUS ROG STRIX Radeon Rx 480 8GB

Ram air cooling
https://www.arctic.ac/worldwide_en/rc.html
 
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#2 ·
The Coolermaster Trooper is a big case! But you will have no need for that ram cooler. Trust me on this. I have measured the temperature of my G Skil Ripjaws while they are being stress tested at 1.66 volts and they stay in the 44-46C range.

Cooling? It looks like you can fit a fan into the optical drive bay nicely. That will be your primary intake fan as it will feed your cpu cooler.

What cooler? Noctua D15, Thermalright Silver Arrow SBE/IBE Extreme, or Silverstone HE01 work well with the FX 8350. I got 4.8 ghz out of my 8350 with the HE01. In very general terms you will want your air flow to look something like this.


Doyll has a good guide in his signature.

About the ASUS 970 Aura. It is a solid board but its 970 chipset isn't as good with crossfire as the 990FX Sabertooth. The Sabertooth will give you better frame rates.
 
#4 ·
The Cryorig R1 Universal is a good cooler but it has relatively weak fans. The 8350 demands powerful fans which is why I picked the others as they have the most powerful fans.

I have never heard of Asiahorse fans and just looking at them says they will not be good enough. Again, performance talks.

Go here. http://www.overclock.net/t/1274407/fans-the-most-complete-and-comprehensive-array-of-tests-and-benchmarks

Select the 2nd list, noise, and then select the 3rd list, pull. What you want is somewhere in the middle of that group. You can scroll down more to see each fan individually.
 
#5 ·
Noctua NH-D14 is the best air cooler I've ever owned, and I can only imagine the NH-D15 would be the same but slightly better. Can't beat that goofy tan and brown German efficiency
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Also I hear no end of good things about BeQuiet!, Cryorig, Scythe, and Phanteks as well, not to mention some of the good ole Cooler Master units. Plenty of great air coolers out there! AIO Liquid and custom hardline water loops are of course the big thing right now but after trying both, high end air is my favorite. My NH-D14 is loads quieter than any of my AIOs or custom loops ever were, and the cooling is on par with any AIO, and only a bit behind most custom loops.
 
#6 ·
miklkit is good source for AMD. He has worked his very hard for years and it's still working well. If I was running AMD, I would listen to him .. Heck, I run intel and still listen to him.
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Like miklkit said, adding RAM cooling is a waste of time.

There are lots of good cooler out there, but what is best for you depends on their cost and where you live makes a big difference. Can you give us links to sites you can buy from?

Another good testing / reviewing source is Thermalbench. @geggeg testing at all speeds shows how fan will perform over it's entire speed range, not just at full speed, but he does not do pull tests Most fans work well for both push and pull, but nto all. The most common reason for a difference is fan housings mount the fan itself closer to the front of the housing than the back. The fan motor mounting frame is on back and add about 4mm more clearance between fan blades when mounted pushing air than when pulling air .. and this changes the performance. Most twin tower coolers are built so there is about 5mm space between front tower and front of middle fan for this reason.
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Some cooler companies supply thicker vibration dampening pads / spaces for mounting fans on back of tower. Nocuta supply thicker spacers for NF-A15 pull fan application on NH-U14S


and Alpenfohn Olymp for example.
 
#7 ·
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

miklkit is good source for AMD. He has worked his very hard for years and it's still working well. If I was running AMD, I would listen to him .. Heck, I run intel and still listen to him.
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Like miklkit said, adding RAM cooling is a waste of time.
@miklkit is definitely our in house AMD cooling expert. I haven't touched an AMD in years, so I would be of little help unless you want to talk about older coolers.
 
#8 ·
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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

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I haven't touched an AMD in years, so I would be of little help unless you want to talk about older coolers.
I would have said that, but I didn't want to admit my age.
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#9 ·
Welcome experts world of air-cooled I want buy many fans for case led red colors and I want cpu cooler is red and black
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My case is Master cooler trooper

Motherboard asus 970 pro gaming/aura

Very good CPU FX-8350 top 4 benchmark CPU
Ram G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 32GB

GPU
ASUS ROG STRIX Radeon Rx 480 8GB
ASUS ROG STRIX Radeon Rx 480 8GB
 
#10 ·
At 66 years age is not an issue with me. This is a nice hobby that keeps me indoors instead of outside doing yard work.
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After sleeping on it I've decided that I took the wrong tack with the OP. He has a solid base to work from and is now working for a certain "style". I don't think like that. For instance my 67 Mustang has a cam, headers, altered suspension geometry, and still no paint 22 years later.
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So, I'm fine with his styling choices. Performance will be adequate and it should still overclock to 4.6 ghz or so. Maybe higher. That Cryorig cooler comes with different colored shrouds, doesn't it?
 
#12 ·
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Originally Posted by miklkit View Post

The Coolermaster Trooper is a big case! But you will have no need for that ram cooler. Trust me on this. I have measured the temperature of my G Skil Ripjaws while they are being stress tested at 1.66 volts and they stay in the 44-46C range.

Cooling? It looks like you can fit a fan into the optical drive bay nicely. That will be your primary intake fan as it will feed your cpu cooler.

What cooler? Noctua D15, Thermalright Silver Arrow SBE/IBE Extreme, or Silverstone HE01 work well with the FX 8350. I got 4.8 ghz out of my 8350 with the HE01. In very general terms you will want your air flow to look something like this.


Doyll has a good guide in his signature.

About the ASUS 970 Aura. It is a solid board but its 970 chipset isn't as good with crossfire as the 990FX Sabertooth. The Sabertooth will give you better frame rates.
I agree myself.

Sabertooth have always been exceptional mobo's, ram coolers are irrelevant.

I wish I had an older one for my X5680, but the P6T7 works pretty well for what the purpose as I already had one.

That case looks a lot like my old Antec 1200 that has been modded a bit over time, but that case is longer
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I like a big tower case. I think my 1200 weighed about 150 lbs at one point with HDD's, it wasn't a LAN case I guess
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Originally Posted by RatPatrol01 View Post

Noctua NH-D14 is the best air cooler I've ever owned, and I can only imagine the NH-D15 would be the same but slightly better. Can't beat that goofy tan and brown German efficiency
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Also I hear no end of good things about BeQuiet!, Cryorig, Scythe, and Phanteks as well, not to mention some of the good ole Cooler Master units. Plenty of great air coolers out there! AIO Liquid and custom hardline water loops are of course the big thing right now but after trying both, high end air is my favorite. My NH-D14 is loads quieter than any of my AIOs or custom loops ever were, and the cooling is on par with any AIO, and only a bit behind most custom loops.
I still love my NH-D14.

I think the Noctua color scheme has been mentioned as Desert Camo just to make it cooler
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#13 ·
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It seems overpriced to me plus it needs a controller. I'm no expert on case fans but i would look at the Bitfenix Spectre if i was in the market.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007998%20600035565%20600035590%20600035695%20600035698&IsNodeId=1&page=2&bop=And&PageSize=36&order=PRICED

EDIT: I got that case as it was being replaced by another case with the same part number, which is a very inferior case. It was a matter of pure dumb luck on my part because I knew nothing and only bought it because I like the front fascia.
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#15 ·
It is probably the very quietest cooler but doesn't cool quite as well as some of the others. It has about the same performance as the Cryorig you first posted.
 
#17 ·
Noctua has been the standard for years but they aren't pretty. The color scheme makes me think of Bailey's Irish Cream for some reason.
 
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#20 ·
It is good for mild overclocks to 4.6 ghz or so. Maybe up to 4.8 ghz with a golden cpu, as in you won the silicon lottery.

Example: I made it to 4.8 ghz with my 8350 and then bought an 8370 which went up to 5 ghz. Then everyone was talking about how much better the new chips were so I bought another 8370. It turned out to be a 4.7 ghz dud. i lost the silicon lottery with that one.
 
#21 ·
Define 'overclocking' .

Many owners have overclocked with 212 coolers .. 150-175 watt ?? Dark Rock Pro 3 is rated 250 watt .. and I believe it will do that at full speed with CPU below 85c with 25c intake air temp.
ciarlatano tested it on his overclocked system and considered it as good as D15, R1 and TC14PE
 
#22 ·
This is FX overclocking. A 212 will typically cool 1.4-1.42 volts for 4.5-4.6 ghz. FX usually starts hitting the wall around 4.8 ghz and voltage goes up really fast. 4.7 ghz is often around 1.45 volts with a good cpu. My 8350 needs 1.5+ volts for 4.7 ghz.

So it is hard to predict where the OP will end up. Most dedicated air cooler top out at 4.8 ghz but OP probably will not quite get that with the coolers he has chosen so far.
 
#23 ·
Indeed.

I'm not sure how hard mounting a be quiet! cooler on AMD is. Instruction manual shows it as same basic install as intel, but are not very detailed.

If it works the same as Intel (and it appears to) it is a good mount.
 
#24 ·
In my experience if the 4 posts are connected, then it will not flex. If the top and bottom posts are not connected, then it will flex.

I just watched a youtube video and it looks strai****rward and not too hard. The bars look to be thick enough to not flex much.
 
#25 ·
Yeah, I've see the mount and agree.
But as I have not actually installed and used one on AMD I can not be 100% sure.
 
#26 ·
Eh? How did "straight forward" get edited?
 
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