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ASUS MG278Q(TN) vs ASUS MG279Q(IPS)

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#1 ·
Hello Everyone

Im new here, but I was told this was the place to get expert answers, so here I am.

Currently im trying to figure out what monitor to get, I only use my monitor for gaming and webbrowsing, I don't do anything that requires critical color accuracy or anything along does lines.

And I won't have access to a calibration tool to calibrate the monitors, and i wont in the future either (they are just too expensive and i dont know how to use them correctly).

And what I can tell from my research on the internet, you can get TN panels to match IPS panels pretty damn close - Is this statement true? Mind you, im just a normal gamer, I don't even think i would tell 100% preciouse colors even if my life depended on it. Currently I use my old trusty 24" Samsung Syncmaster PLS. And I wont have a TN and IPS next to each other. Viewing Angles isnt an issue for me, since I sit right infront of my screen and I don't slouch around on the chair.

The MG278Q is 510 dollars on amazon where as the MG279Q is 600 dollars, is the IPS display worth the extra cash with all the above factored in?

http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/monitor-reviews-discussion/15713-best-144hz-monitors.html

From this site, I can see both monitors get good reviews and the mg278q requires the least amount of calibrating and the mg279q requires quite a bit - isnt this gonna be too hard for a person with a calibration tool?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Is there a completely different monitor I should be looking at? I need 1440P, 144hz and 27" - adaptive sync I want freesync, since G-sync is simply too expensive and I want Vega when its released.
 
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#2 ·
I am in no way an expert and just came across your thread while searching for calibration settings since my MG278Q is fairly new.

I went to a local shop with my mind set on purchasing an MG279Q. Tested an MG279Q, MG278Q and an AGON AG271QX. Two MG279Qs that was on stock had bad backlight bleeding and really turned me off. The first MG278Q I tested was perfect and after some time testing I took it home.

The AG271QX was just as good as the MG278Q but was more expensive and Asus has better warranty, 3 years vs 2 (AOC).

Ark, Overwatch, CS-GO, Dirty Bomb and even watching movies have all been great so far. I'll say this - if you can, you should walk in and test both monitors before buying just to be sure you don't end up with a dud and go through the hassle of replacement, etc.
 
#3 ·
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Originally Posted by ojpd View Post

I am in no way an expert and just came across your thread while searching for calibration settings since my MG278Q is fairly new.

I went to a local shop with my mind set on purchasing an MG279Q. Tested an MG279Q, MG278Q and an AGON AG271QX. Two MG279Qs that was on stock had bad backlight bleeding and really turned me off. The first MG278Q I tested was perfect and after some time testing I took it home.

The AG271QX was just as good as the MG278Q but was more expensive and Asus has better warranty, 3 years vs 2 (AOC).

Ark, Overwatch, CS-GO, Dirty Bomb and even watching movies have all been great so far. I'll say this - if you can, you should walk in and test both monitors before buying just to be sure you don't end up with a dud and go through the hassle of replacement, etc.
Thank you for your input. Did you by any chance notice how the colors looked on the TN vs IPS? I know the backlight bleed was bad, but were you able to tell if the colors on the TN was way worse than on the IPS?

Good to know the AG271QX is also as good, one more TN panel that might on sale.
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#4 ·
Just by viewing from the front? I could hardly tell the difference. The color on the IPS ones was a little better but honestly in my case I really paid more attention to the 279Q's bleeding while testing. Both also have a grainy matt coating.

For me:

No backlight bleed vs Bleeding
1ms vs 4ms
TN vs IPS

In the end the price/performance made up my mind: From where I'm from the 279Q is roughly around $180 more than the 278Q.

Not sure if it also has a 3 year warranty but have a look at the BenQ 2730Z some say it's also pretty good.
 
#5 ·
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Originally Posted by ojpd View Post

Just by viewing from the front? I could hardly tell the difference. The color on the IPS ones was a little better but honestly in my case I really paid more attention to the 279Q's bleeding while testing. Both also have a grainy matt coating.

For me:

No backlight bleed vs Bleeding
1ms vs 4ms
TN vs IPS

In the end the price/performance made up my mind: From where I'm from the 279Q is roughly around $180 more than the 278Q.

Not sure if it also has a 3 year warranty but have a look at the BenQ 2730Z some say it's also pretty good.
Yeah, from viewing straight on, Id really like to know what "normal users" think of the colors on a TN. Especially since im believing more and more that a normal user almost can't tell a difference from a TN vs IPS - or atleast thats my theory. Id love that to be debunked or proved, either way works for me, im just looking for clarification and not stupid stuff like:

"lol TN is garbage, beacuse i edit photo's for the pentagon i need 1110% color accuracy!"

I just know to know whether or not a normal person could be content with a TN and the colors would match an IPS pretty damn close.

.
 
#6 ·
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Originally Posted by ojpd View Post

Just by viewing from the front? I could hardly tell the difference. The color on the IPS ones was a little better but honestly in my case I really paid more attention to the 279Q's bleeding while testing. Both also have a grainy matt coating.

For me:

No backlight bleed vs Bleeding
1ms vs 4ms
TN vs IPS

In the end the price/performance made up my mind: From where I'm from the 279Q is roughly around $180 more than the 278Q.

Not sure if it also has a 3 year warranty but have a look at the BenQ 2730Z some say it's also pretty good.
You seems to point out all downsides from IPS against TN advantages (144 hz TN suffers from some overshoot like reverse ghosting and pixel inversion, 144 hz IPS have no overshoot issues at all)
There are backlight bleed issues on TN as well
I have perfect IPS from my notebook, zero bleed, minimal glow
Dont generalize about bleed, it may impact others kind of panel too (my ex TN had some)
1 ms vs 4 ms without deeper analysis means nothing, those IPS G-Sync Gaming monitors are pretty fast come close to the best TN panel
Even an experience user/player wouldn't notice a difference
Not all model/panel share equal response time, there are many aspects to take account including refresh rate, G-Sync/Freesync module, overdrive, input lag...
IPS/TN, i owned many premium TN/IPS in this year, i can clearly see a difference in favor of IPS
If you are unable to see a difference, it doesnt mean the vast majority cant
Its not only about color accuracy, anything is better/improved on IPS
The difference is not huge though unlike some exaggeration like ''its day and night between TN and IPS''
But its definitely there
Its up to OP to consider if IPS worth extra money
my advice: stay on TN if you never owned IPS before, lottery game about bleed may annoy you
Input lag is often lower on those IPS, response time is sightly faster on TN (best IPS are rated at 5.5 ms against 3/4 ms for TN), its meaningless as factor to take account
In a word, its both good panels for gaming purpose
 
#7 ·
@ajx

I'm sorry but you seem to have failed to completely read what I just wrote.

For starters I said, the colors in the IPS was a little better. I even said "But honestly, I paid more attention to the 279Qs bleeding". Did you not get this part? I wasn't generalizing nor was I referring to all IPS monitors. I came from a 1080 IPS screen & in my case I wanted to upgrade to a 1440p IPS screen. AND I was talking about the only two 279Qs that was on stock at the store. Emphasis on the word "TWO" which means I actually had the store open up TWO MG279Q monitors for me to try before I decided to try a TN Panel.

If you also read my previous reply I was planning on getting the IPS version. You probably also missed my last paragraph where I specifically said:

"FOR ME" which means, as in right there and then at the store I had to make up my mind between the 279Qs that had back light bleeding vs the perfect 278Q that was also there. That was what I had to weigh and I merely shared my personal experience.

I also indicated that price/performance was what made up my mind. If I had to pick between 2 IPS panels that had back light bleeding VS a perfect TN one I would pick the TN one again and again and again.

And lastly try to read my first reply, I told the OP that if he can, he should walk in and try both monitors. That right there is to make sure he doesn't get a dud. May it be TN or IPS.
 
#8 ·
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Originally Posted by Chinguy View Post

Yeah, from viewing straight on, Id really like to know what "normal users" think of the colors on a TN. Especially since im believing more and more that a normal user almost can't tell a difference from a TN vs IPS - or atleast thats my theory. Id love that to be debunked or proved, either way works for me, im just looking for clarification and not stupid stuff like:

"lol TN is garbage, beacuse i edit photo's for the pentagon i need 1110% color accuracy!"

I just know to know whether or not a normal person could be content with a TN and the colors would match an IPS pretty damn close.

.
You can tell a difference between TN and IPS. Its just no longer as big of a difference but its still there. Really up to the individual user to determine whether the extra money for IPS is worth it or not.

IPS (Asus MG24UQ)



TN (Dell S2417DG)



Both calibrated at 120cd/m2 white point 6500k gamma 2.2 using i1 display pro.
 
#9 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinguy View Post

Yeah, from viewing straight on, Id really like to know what "normal users" think of the colors on a TN. Especially since im believing more and more that a normal user almost can't tell a difference from a TN vs IPS - or atleast thats my theory. Id love that to be debunked or proved, either way works for me, im just looking for clarification and not stupid stuff like:

"lol TN is garbage, beacuse i edit photo's for the pentagon i need 1110% color accuracy!"

I just know to know whether or not a normal person could be content with a TN and the colors would match an IPS pretty damn close.

.
Strictly speaking between the MG279Q and the MG278Q.. All I can say is everything's a little bit more vivid on the IPS model. There is a difference but IMHO it's not night and day.
 
#10 ·
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Originally Posted by ojpd View Post

@ajx

I'm sorry but you seem to have failed to completely read what I just wrote.

For starters I said, the colors in the IPS was a little better. I even said "But honestly, I paid more attention to the 279Qs bleeding". Did you not get this part? I wasn't generalizing nor was I referring to all IPS monitors. I came from a 1080 IPS screen & in my case I wanted to upgrade to a 1440p IPS screen. AND I was talking about the only two 279Qs that was on stock at the store. Emphasis on the word "TWO" which means I actually had the store open up TWO MG279Q monitors for me to try before I decided to try a TN Panel.

If you also read my previous reply I was planning on getting the IPS version. You probably also missed my last paragraph where I specifically said:

"FOR ME" which means, as in right there and then at the store I had to make up my mind between the 279Qs that had back light bleeding vs the perfect 278Q that was also there. That was what I had to weigh and I merely shared my personal experience.

I also indicated that price/performance was what made up my mind. If I had to pick between 2 IPS panels that had back light bleeding VS a perfect TN one I would pick the TN one again and again and again.

And lastly try to read my first reply, I told the OP that if he can, he should walk in and try both monitors. That right there is to make sure he doesn't get a dud. May it be TN or IPS.
OK np, i misreaded you
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All i can say, some people are more sensitive than others about difference
I am quite sensitive since i got a good IPS 1440p G-Sync without bleed
Choosing the right monitor is fckin nightmare since there are more choice and then also alot of inconveniences from each model/panel
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#11 ·
It's a friggin pain in the ass. I've read 100s of reviews already, and am still undecided if I want to go IPS or TN. Local shops, been to 8 already, have had 0, yes, a grand total of NO 144+Hz screens WHATSOEVER on display. Even the local MediaMarkt, which I think can be compared to something like BestBuy, which had like 25 screens on display, had none. Ofcourse they did have 15+ of those stupid curved ultrawide office screens maybe one customer/month cares about, but still....

They all offered to order a screen for me, but after saying "I want to check and test difference between TN/IPS" meaning they need to order 2 screens and may not even sell them to be, their enthusiasm is cooled quickly. They kind of want a buying commitment... yea right.
 
#12 ·
As an owner of an MG279Q I can say it is a flipping beautiful monitor. Calibration can be difficult because it's so far from uniform from one panel to the next, if I paste my settings and you replicate on yours, it may look bad. I don't have any professional grade calibration tools either.

Backlight bleed all vanished once I dialed back the preset brightness (which was insanely high, I guess they are calibrated off the shelf for use in sunlit or very bright rooms). Black screens look ..black.. to me. That said, I remember people returning this very monitor multiple times before they got one they were happy with, but I had no such experience. I actually bought mine open box on Newegg I believe for $449 a year ago, I'm very happy with it, most certainly is no issue with blacklight bleed on mine.. YMMV

Right next to it I have a 1080P AOC 144hz 27" monitor that I got for around $350 USD last year (my counter strike monitor), it simply pales in comparison. Not just the resolution but the way the colors "pop". If I compare solid colors for accuracy between the two I can't see a difference, but there is just something about the IPS panel when looking at a colorful image with variants from darks to brights, maybe the superior contrast that just makes it stand out greatly to me (of course in my case it's also much higher pixel density).

TN has gotten bettter, the AOC really only color shifts at extreme angles or from above and the colors do seem to have more life than my older Asus VH236H screens, but I can still tell you which is IPS straight away when they are side by side.

edit: I see OP vanished in december, oh well, maybe somebody else will find this post useful.
 
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