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Haven't see any threads on this yet, so I figured I'd start one to gather some feedback/experiences.

Announced along with AMD's new ReLive, OCAT is an open source utility that promises to gather accurate frame time information, much like FCAT, but entirely in software.

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/10894/Radeon%20Software%20Crimson%20ReLive%20[NDA%20Only%20-%20Confidential]%20v6-page-013.jpg?_ga=1.45944032.518350950.1481151888

https://github.com/GPUOpen-Tools/OCAT

I've just installed it and am about to compare it to FRAPS, but what I'd really like to see is how closely it matches FCAT results, so if anyone has an FCAT setup (which requires a second PC with a high-end capture card) I'd be very interested in seeing some of your comparisons. Likewise, if anyone knows of any review/tech sites that have made such comparisons, please link them.

Update: OCAT is not functioning on my primary system, there is no overlay and it will not capture data from any app I've tried. Log files show that some apps are being hooked correctly, but there is never anything in the recording folder.

Either this public beta is exceptionally buggy, or it doesn't like my particular system configuration. I would not be surprised if it's the latter as I've got DWM completely disabled.
Edited by Blameless - 12/9/16 at 12:17am
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Gamers Nexus posted a video on OCAT and they seem to be having issues with it as well. Hopefully it gets a patch soon.
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Yeah, looks like I'll have to wait for a 1.0 release.
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OCAT is similar to PresentMon with an AMD skin, at least as far as I can tell. Of course, their GitHub has hardly anything beyond the license and a Read Me, so there's no way to know for sure until the source code is uploaded.

Check this out - it gives a relationship between OCAT and PresentMon:
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2712-explanation-of-amd-ocat-overlay-for-presentmon




Anyways, for your reading:
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/PresentMon-Frame-Time-Performance-Data-DX12-UWP-Games
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/presentmon-performance-directx-opengl-vulkan,4740.html

Something from the author:
https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2016/08/04/presentmonlauncher-dx12vulkan-benchmarking

.. and of course their GitHub.
https://github.com/andymanic/PresentMonLauncher

Due to the similarities between PresentMon and OCAT, I expect that the file interpreter will be compatible.

Also, if you are wondering about the frame time analysis discrepancy between FCAT and PresentMon, there might be an answer here:
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/223654-instrument-error-amd-fcat-and-ashes-of-the-singularity


Edit:

Joel uses FRAFS by the way to capture frame times: https://sourceforge.net/projects/frafsbenchview/

I am not sure what the differences will be due to FRAFS and OCAT, but if his article on FCAT is any indication there might be differences in the frame time capture software.

Either way, it is good that we are seeing more tools populate the market.
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Originally Posted by CrazyElf View Post

OCAT is similar to PresentMon with an AMD skin, at least as far as I can tell. Of course, their GitHub has hardly anything beyond the license and a Read Me, so there's no way to know for sure until the source code is uploaded.

Check this out - it gives a relationship between OCAT and PresentMon:
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2712-explanation-of-amd-ocat-overlay-for-presentmon

Very interesting. Thanks for the info.
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