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I see all these sites saying the maximum safe temp of the xeon w3690 is 67 Celsius? Is that right? Mine idles at 52 and has hit 90 several times during 100% usage on all cores. It seems like this is super low even for gulftown processors. Can someone advise me on whether this is correct or not?
 
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67.9°C is the T-Case specification for the Integrated Heatspreader and it's measured on the top of the CPU at the geometric center (the same spot where you can apply thermal paste). It's not the maximum safe temperature for the cores. If the integrated heatspreader were at 67.9°C, then the cores would be 90-100 degrees.

 

If you want a general idea of the maximum safe temperature, look for the Tj. Max spec of this CPU. If the T-Spec is 67.9°C, then I would assume the Tj. Max is at around 90 or 95. Even then, the CPU won't die or anything if the cores reach the Tj. Max for a moment. The CPU will throttle itself down to protect itself. If that doesn't work for some reason, then there's a point at which the CPU will turn itself off. I think that's well over 100 degrees, like 115 or 125 or something seemingly insane like that.

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67.9°C is the T-Case specification for the Integrated Heatspreader and it's measured on the top of the CPU at the geometric center (the same spot where you can apply thermal paste). It's not the maximum safe temperature for the cores. If the integrated heatspreader were at 67.9°C, then the cores would be 90-100 degrees.

If you want a general idea of the maximum safe temperature, look for the Tj. Max spec of this CPU. If the T-Spec is 67.9°C, then I would assume the Tj. Max is at around 90 or 95. Even then, the CPU won't die or anything if the cores reach the Tj. Max for a moment. The CPU will throttle itself down to protect itself. If that doesn't work for some reason, then there's a point at which the CPU will turn itself off. I think that's well over 100 degrees, like 115 or 125 or something seemingly insane like that.

I thought it was 95. thanks twocables. My plex server is an old Dell T3500 with a 3690W and 12 GB of RAM so I just wanted to see because during transcoding it gets up to high 80s low 90s,
 
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TwoCables has it.

You are better off paying attention to the distance to TJmax, which programs like coretemp or HWinfo64 will list or which can be calculated yourself once you know what TJmax rating your board is assuming.

The TCASE rating that's listed in all the Intel documentation is mostly useless since you have to mutilate your CPU or cooler to measure it.
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I thought it was 95. thanks twocables. My plex server is an old Dell T3500 with a 3690W and 12 GB of RAM so I just wanted to see because during transcoding it gets up to high 80s low 90s,

That's still pretty high for a stock part, as are 52C reported idle temps.

You sure the cooling doesn't have any issues (mounted correctly and free of dust build up)?
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TwoCables has it.

You are better off paying attention to the distance to TJmax, which programs like coretemp or HWinfo64 will list or which can be calculated yourself once you know what TJmax rating your board is assuming.

The TCASE rating that's listed in all the Intel documentation is mostly useless since you have to mutilate your CPU or cooler to measure it.
That's still pretty high for a stock part, as are 52C reported idle temps.

You sure the cooling doesn't have any issues (mounted correctly and free of dust build up)?


it's probably time to switch cases and reapply the paste. I'll do that this week.
 
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Yeah, I admit that I am worried about why the temperature is that high too.

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Reporting/polling bug.
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Looks like they did a crappy job pasting, also seems to me there is no fan attacahed to the CPU heatsink.. they expect the front side fans to cool the thing (I had seen this before but thought nothing of it)


I may end up picking up another cooling solution.. interestingly... my ambient temperature is 27 (In my room) and the new idle temp seems to be 43... and it pegged out at 65.. which is a lot more friendly, I'll keep an eye on it.

The heat paste I use



Inside of the T3500 No major dust buildup



Paste on CPU



CPU after cleaning



Before Cleaning Copper



After cleaning copper


Edited by Darkpriest667 - 12/13/16 at 7:06am
 
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