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post #421 of 970
Yes 3361 Lua and Roccat is saved in my eyes. Just move the sensor position forward a bit.
I liked the Kiro idea, if it was 20g lighter, had higher sensor position and no rubber coating.

btw G-what? You guys use software for weird stuff tongue.gif
post #422 of 970
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Originally Posted by imdavidboss View Post

Straight up just a wrong answer lol

Seen so many posts about mostly loving the wheel, and ofcourse those people also like that shape since that's what matters first. I've used 5xx mice for the better part of 12 years and tbh, I found the G502 terrible, esp. in comparison to the older mice (518, 510, G5, etc) that should be similar in shape. I found it too small compared too the others (less room for my thumb without touching stuff I shouldn't, pinky and ringfinger also), and way too heavy (due to the wheel mostly but even without it is). The only main outstanding feature speaking for this thing is the infinite scroll which, granted, was awesome. Only for non gaming tho so I returned the mouse.

So if I'm so wrong, enlighten us, what is the single superb thing all the 502 fans enjoy?
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Originally Posted by helliace View Post


1. I have never used any mouse with a worse scroll wheel than G502 - it's actually the WORST part of the mouse. I don't care about infinite scroll (why not just page up/down? or ctrl+home/end?). It feels hard and cold and uncomfortable, is very noisy, lacks resistance. I can't even middle click without struggling (UGH).
2. It's HEAVY. The mouse shape forces you into a claw/fingertip grip, but then the weight made it impossible to be picked up. I don't get it.

Software side:
1. G-Shift is not as responsive as Roccat's Easy-Shift. You have to hold the G-Shift button for 0.5 sec before buttons start shifting. On KPO, both buttons could be pressed then released simultaneously without problem.
2. Software forces you to have both left and right buttons on G-Shift side. Who the hell uses left and right buttons when shifting? This means 2 less buttons I could have used for previous track and next track....
3. No G-Shift+scroll up/down for volume up/down.

I agree that ROCCAT software is quite buggy at times, but nothing beats Easy-Shift and ROCCAT scroll wheel, imo...

Actually the points about the scroll wheel is why I seemed to remember people were so happy about this mouse. Since I returned it I didn't check this topic, I'm guessing mostly gamers will not agree. I didn't, agree with you that *IMO* it sucks.

Software: well you were talking about buggy software. What you're doing is pointing out 1 tiny feature, that doesn't work as you expect it to and call it a bug (which is clearly isn't - simply a different implementation from Roccat's). I've never used G-shift, don't find it useful, but if it has a delay I agree that isn't so handy.
Btw I do think you won't find another mouse manufacturer with software that implements it EXACTLY the way Roccat has, so unless 3rd party software exists that does that, you're stuck to Roccat mice smile.gif Np if you're happy ofcourse but no need to bash Logi for not copying their methods tongue.gif
post #423 of 970
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Originally Posted by pindle View Post

So if I'm so wrong, enlighten us, what is the single superb thing all the 502 fans enjoy?

I don't want to get into an argument about this. I wasn't trying to be condescending or anything. So if you felt that way, I apologize. My main complaint is that I think you should have been clear that it's just your opinion that the scroll wheel is the only good thing about the mouse. Our whole discussion and my previous comment is predicated on that statement. What you should have said is, "It's the only thing I like about the mouse." Therein lies my main issue with your blanket statement about the G502. Which, by the way, is objectively the best selling Logitech gaming mouse. See CPate quote below.
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Originally Posted by CPate View Post

G502 is our most popular gaming mouse.

Also, I've explained many times in the past what I think the pros and cons of the G502 are. I seem to disagree with many people in this forum about the topic. If you really want the full story you can look at my post history.

Here's my timeline with mice: Logitech MX700, MX518, G5, G500, G500S, G502, G403, G Pro. I suspect there are many people that have a lineage similar to that. I LOVE that shape of mice, as you can see from my purchase history. I certainly agree with you that the G502 shape is not similar in shape to the MX5xx and G5xxx shapes. However, it still fits my hand very well. In my experience, that always seems to have alleviated the weight problem others have. I use it with no weights added. The clicks on the G502 are fkin awesome. They aren't pretensioned like the G303, G403, G Pro, etc. Logitech used a pretty ingenious technique to get them to feel they way they do. I have a post describing that in my post history if you're curious. Both right click and left click sound the same on my G502, feel the same, actuate quickly, etc. Pretty awesome for having no pretension on them. Obviously, you can't forget that it has the PWM3366. I mean, how could you? It was the first mouse to have that sensor, and it's awesome.

I'll tell you this, some G502 owners are insane. I mean have you seen the subreddit, /r/G502MasterRace/? There are people who have ALL the weights in this thing, and still want more! Now THAT blows my mind.

I use the G Pro at home now to game. I love it. The low weight IS awesome. Perfect for playing Tracer and having to do 180s after blinking behind someone. That just didn't feel as nice or as easy using the G502. For CS:GO, I never really had that problem. Holding angles and pivoting 90 degrees either way is pretty much the norm. If you have to 180 in CS you are usually already dead unless the person behind you flat out just didn't hit their shots.

All that being said, I will buy the Roccat Kone Pure 2017. It's shape looks very similar to the MX518 and it has a low weight with a PWM3360 variant. Quite exciting.
post #424 of 970
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Originally Posted by pindle View Post

So if I'm so wrong, enlighten us, what is the single superb thing all the 502 fans enjoy?
Not a fan of 502 and Logitech freewheel, but I think 502 famous for being the first 3366 mouse rather than its wheel.
post #425 of 970
i was wondering the same thing.
maybe it's just because it was the first mouse with our beloved super sensor. can imagine that initial sales were good, and then another boost in sales after the "review hype" hit. 12k dpi supar accurat h'mazing!
i assume they nailed the marketing although i can't remember any of it. the usual generic but high quality advertising i suppose. 12k dpi supar accurat h'mazing!
post #426 of 970
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Originally Posted by imdavidboss View Post

I don't want to get into an argument about this.

When I tried a G502 and was following this thread a bit almost all praise I saw was about the wheel and how great it felt. But nah me neither, argument is not worth it, let's drop that smile.gif
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Originally Posted by cylinder View Post

Not a fan of 502 and Logitech freewheel, but I think 502 famous for being the first 3366 mouse rather than its wheel.

You could be right, I cba to look back at the posts. Anyways CPate's "most popular" is pretty deceptive anyways, it doesn't actually say anything. Does it mean most sold? If so, since when? Most attention from public? Most used by "gamer public"?
It's just a hollow phrase without context.
post #427 of 970
G502 is popular because it was versatile and so catered to a lot of people for the time it was released.

The sensor catered to those who wanted performance.

The rich feature set, including a lot of buttons and the wheel, catered to those were weren't just looking at purely FPS gaming. The interesting thing while the G502 is heavy for a minimalist FPS gaming mouse, which typically only have 5 buttons with standard wheel, it is actually on the lighter side for feature heavy mice. It wasn't until Logitech's own G900 that you had a feature heavy mouse really lower the weight threshold but the high price of entry on that is going to limit its popularity.
post #428 of 970
Is this a Logitech thread? .....
post #429 of 970
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Originally Posted by arandomguy View Post

G502 is popular because it was versatile and so catered to a lot of people for the time it was released.

Nah the G502 became popular because it was the first mouse with the 3366 no smoothing wonder of nature.
At least on forums...
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Originally Posted by Nivity View Post

Is this a Logitech thread? .....

lol
post #430 of 970
...I highly doubt the vast majority of G502 buyers snagged one up due to "no smoothing". It's not like word spread and people were like "oh really, no smoothing? cool, I'll go with that one then". The majority of owners would still have one sitting on the desk even if it had a 9800.
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