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in 2004 Sony released the mother of CRT monitors at FW900 @ $2300 MSRP, anyone that bought it back then and kept it to this day assuming it lived this long (unlikely, but repairable) got more than their moneys worth. Anyone that buys this monitor and keeps it for 10+ years will also get their moneys worth. The only downside is this isn't OLED, and i'd feel some buyers remorse if an OLED variant came out in 1-2 years.
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If you care for some insider info: yes, Acer gets better panels than Asus from AU Optronics.

Wait, what? Why is this? Isn't Asus viewed as the more "premium" brand?
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Wait, what? Why is this? Isn't Asus viewed as the more "premium" brand?

I believe AUO is owned by Acer, or something to that extent.
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I don't know why people keep listing the 55" OLED 60HZ TV as an alternate to this. I have two C6 OLEDs and while they are wonderful, they are not in the same Galaxy as what this 144hz Fald will do.

And yes....figuring in inflation and COLA....11 years ago $2,199 was the equivalent of 1.4 million Iraqi Dinars of todays money.....so I would say two grand US dollars is pretty cheap compared to 1.4 million Dinars

Not just inflation... bigger factor isn't inflation, it's that technology has had 11 years to improve. I don't even need to think about inflation when comparing 1050ti to GTX 8800 Ultra to see how far we've come even though they are nowhere near at the same price ranges.

 

LCD with FALD's not beating OLED in my eyes, even if Asus gets its act together. The real deal is losing some visuals for 144hz. My 2 cents.

 

 

Well, and the input lag. That's a thing too though.

   
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Fw900 released in 2000. I bought my first one in 2004, and second one in 2006 used. First one lasted until 2013, the other 2016. Looking back i would have payed 5 thousand dollars easily for them to avoid LCDs all these years.

This monitor price is not unexpected for what it is. But for $2k it should at least include hardware calibration support imo. In fact i wish they'd just add that and it cost $2500. Since the Eizo "equivalent" to this monitor is about $2700 dollars https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1138068-REG/eizo_cg248_4k_23_8_hardware_calibration_lcd.html and is just edge lit 10 bit at 60Hz with polariser and built in hardware calibration, and is only 24". Want True 4k at 31" ? 6 Thousand Dollars. No 144Hz, no gsync, fald, nor possible ULMB. Previously these were my main choices for an LCD. But 60Hz. for 2700 dollars. or 2500 for the 1440p is a hard pill to swallow.
Edited by KGPrime - 4/10/17 at 6:05pm
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I believe AUO is owned by Acer, or something to that extent.

literally...breaking news for me.
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Not just inflation... bigger factor isn't inflation, it's that technology has had 11 years to improve. I don't even need to think about inflation when comparing 1050ti to GTX 8800 Ultra to see how far we've come even though they are nowhere near at the same price ranges.

LCD with FALD's not beating OLED in my eyes, even if Asus gets its act together. The real deal is losing some visuals for 144hz. My 2 cents.


Well, and the input lag. That's a thing too though.

Obviously I love OLED...but there is nothing...and I mean NOTHING OLED PC display wise on the horizon. The 120hz Dell 4k Oled was literally our only hope of seeing an OLED PC display anytime soon and now that its cancelled it is looking like OLED is alot like SED to me.....I don't think we are gonna see OLED PC monitors for several years now, if at all mad.gif
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literally...breaking news for me.

it's not a secret, it's stated on wikipedia that AUO was formed by merger of Acer Display Technology and another firm.

And yes, Acer gets better panels than any other manufacturer buying from them (this means Asus and AOC).



GDM-FW900 was amazing and it was literally the best PC monitor all the way up to 2015, like I said, so if you kept one for 15 years that 2300$ was worth it, literally every cent. But in the case of PG27UQ, I'm afraid that in 2-3 years it will be already obsoleted by OLED displays.
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On OLED rendering this monitor obsolete:

The only OLED monitor that was announced was the Dell one at USD 4999. This monitor will be USD 2000 or so. I would expect a monitor that is more than double the price of this one to be better, hands down, yet this 2000 USD monitor will suffice, depending on the actual performance.

I wouldn't count this monitor out yet - there are enough people in this thread (you included) stating that USD 2000 is too much, or is a joke - would these people have spent USD 5000 on the Dell offering? I don't see how a product costing 2.5 times what this does would render this monitor obsolete.

I have yet to see an OLED monitor announced - Dell recalled their announcement. So, this one still sits at king of the hill for a gamer - or am I wrong?
post #860 of 939
Don't forget that Dell announced their 120hz OLED a while ago and it seemed a failed experiment. Nobody (except for Vega tongue.gif) would buy such thing, I guess. The OLED manufacturing process can be cheaper than LCD's, there is ZERO reason - except for marketing and hype - to make such a monitor cost so much.

I have stated that 2000 is too much for me, but I also stated that I feel it's a reasonable price after giving it some thought - FALD is very expensive, you won't get a cheap FALD monitor, simply put. I think that actually FALD LCD costs much more than OLED to manufacture.

IIRC it's something like that:



in 2013-2014 it was much worse but IIRC it's no longer valid after LG perfected their manufacturing process.

2013-2014:


Edited by Astreon - 4/11/17 at 1:32am
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