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I've been seeing that said on OCN for the past couple of days. How are you guys arriving at that conclusion? Are you basing that on actual data? It looks to me most of the premium for FALD displays does not derive from production costs, but from product segmentation.

Well, OLED should have lower material costs since it's less complex than LCD (especially FALD LCD), and OLED prices continuously go down while its marketshare increases (primarily in the smartphone industry though). I think that's all we have to go off of.
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I've been seeing that said on OCN for the past couple of days. How are you guys arriving at that conclusion? Are you basing that on actual data? It looks to me most of the premium for FALD displays does not derive from production costs, but from product segmentation.

Depends how much of full array backlighting is used and whether local dimming is used or not. I believe most people are mistaking full array costs with local dimming costs. Manufacturers can put only 32 big LEDs for the backlight if they want and no local dimming and it would be cheap. But as soon as you start adding meaningful local dimming, costs rise drastically. To have 256+ zones, you need at least 256+ LEDs. On top of that you need a controller chip (or chips) with 256 drive channels, which can get pricey. The top displays have 384 zones now, which means chips connected to the main processor to drive 384 completely different and separate channels, and 384 LEDs. That's a lot of money on the BOM. But simply full array and nothing else? Pretty cheap most of the time.
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The top displays have 384 zones now, which means chips connected to the main processor to drive 384 completely different and separate channels, and 384 LEDs. That's a lot of money on the BOM.
I suppose. I just don't know if that's still more expensive than 8+ million individual OLED's.
    
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Never say never. Since OLED costs less to make than FALD LCD (and maybe LCD in general, if not yet then soon), that strongly suggests OLED will actually phase out LCD. Less costly and better in pretty much every way.

There are other 4k 144 Hz monitors on the horizon, the Acer XB272-HDR and an AOC 32" variant.

I love people's obsession with the difference between a monitor and a TV. Monitors are obviously more suitable for the common PC situation but in my mind that's more for desk-work. As far as gaming goes - I just can't figure out the affinity towards hunching over a desk, looking at a small screen. I'd rather look at a big beautiful 65" OLED screen to play just about any game than some dinky 27" monitor or some awkward ultra-wide setup. If I bring guests over, they're always more impressed with a couch-TV setup. 144Hz + GSync looks nice...but compared to a giant screen and infinite contrast, it's a relatively weak draw.

People restricting themselves to monitors are going to be ages behind in IQ for quite some time tongue.gif
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I love people's obsession with the difference between a monitor and a TV. Monitors are obviously more suitable for the common PC situation but in my mind that's more for desk-work. As far as gaming goes - I just can't figure out the affinity towards hunching over a desk, looking at a small screen. I'd rather look at a big beautiful 65" OLED screen to play just about any game than some dinky 27" monitor or some awkward ultra-wide setup. If I bring guests over, they're always more impressed with a couch-TV setup. 144Hz + GSync looks nice...but compared to a giant screen and infinite contrast, it's a relatively weak draw.

People restricting themselves to monitors are going to be ages behind in IQ for quite some time tongue.gif

The primary factors for me preferring a monitor are input lag (TVs almost always have too much), PPI (I'm going to need at least 5k resolution before I have no issues with PPI at 50" and above), variable refresh rate and high refresh rate. I can't stand tearing and high refresh rate is a huge bonus for me (although not as important as image quality, generally speaking).

But you're right that monitors will remain far behind in picture quality until OLED finally surfaces in the consumer monitor industry. Hopefully OLED monitors do away with matte coatings...
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Is there any timeframe for release right now?
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It was officially canned in 2016.

It was actually released today.
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It was actually released today.

Indeed...now all the picky pants who have been complaining about IPS & the smallish 27" and wanted the "cheaper to produce" OLED tech can opt of from this puny 27" FALD and go with the more economical $3,500 Dell 30" 60hz OLED lachen.gif
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Oh man, I thought you meant the Asus! I went looking all around for 10 minutes on the internet and was like *** is this guy smoking...

Dell....hahahahaha yeah...I'll pass.
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Indeed...now all the picky pants who have been complaining about IPS & the smallish 27" and wanted the "cheaper to produce" OLED tech can opt of from this puny 27" FALD and go with the more economical $3,500 Dell 30" 60hz OLED lachen.gif

I bought my 55" OLED for $1400 though. Prices will come down. It just needs a bit more time.
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