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i really wish AMD would drop PGA and switch to LGA, i always get nervous when handling an AMD CPU.

I much prefer the PGA sockets. I have bend lots of pins, but they always straighten out, the old credit card en pen technique.

If you bent an LGA pin, its probably game over, and you won't get it RMA'd as it's user damage.
 
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No ones ever died from bending CPU pins a little, don't be afraid.

Go on, get a PGA chip, live a little
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It looks similar but the actual spacing may be different. Won't know for sure until more specs are released.
I can't remember for sure if AMD said am3+ coolers would be compatible or not.
These vendors though maybe offering the mounting for the AMD socket if it may have only been offered with Intel socket hardware.

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It is the same mounting, but coolers that mount with backplates will need a different backplate. At least from what I can understand that reps stated during ces.

Ok got it.
post #154 of 177
I'm feeling that faux carbon fiber look of the BioStar one.

Can not wait to see more and I hope Asus or MSi comes out with a very nice mATX board.
This case of mine really doesn't like eATX or even normal ATX. And since I'm a casual gamer this is probably all the CPU power I really need.
Now just need to make sure this is a real upgrade and not a side grade to my 4790K to make it worth the money I spend on it.
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I am the same with putting in AMD CPU's , scared of them breaking pins and actually have managed to break a CPU putting it in. It's these giant hands I have , much prefer the intel way to put a CPU in

My hands are about the size of a 2nd baseman's mitt and I have never had any issue putting an AMD processor into a MB.
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The real gripe that I have with the AMD socket is the CPU locking system. That lever is just for show and it won't hold the CPU at all. Most thermal pastes will glue the CPU to the heatsink and the inexperienced user will eventually make a pulling move and bring the CPU together in a jerk. But the lever lock makes pressure enough to bend several pins in the process. I have heard of several cases over the years about people who bent or broke the pins with this socket lever -- me included in my first build with a 1090T (that I saved).

Since they went through the trouble to change the backplate spacing and force the whole cooling industry to adapt, they should have changed the socket as well. I consider it a bad move to keep the same cheap-looking-pin-bender socket that they have for ages.
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The real gripe that I have with the AMD socket is the CPU locking system. That lever is just for show and it won't hold the CPU at all. Most thermal pastes will glue the CPU to the heatsink and the inexperienced user will eventually make a pulling move and bring the CPU together in a jerk. But the lever lock makes pressure enough to bend several pins in the process. I have heard of several cases over the years about people who bent or broke the pins with this socket lever -- me included in my first build with a 1090T (that I saved).

Since they went through the trouble to change the backplate spacing and force the whole cooling industry to adapt, they should have changed the socket as well. I consider it a bad move to keep the same cheap-looking-pin-bender socket that they have for ages.
You must be somewhat new to computers. The ZIF lever-lock socket has been in use in PCs since at least 1990 with Intel's Socket 2. It grips the CPU very hard, and if you pull the CPU out while removing the heatsink, it's because you were being a gorilla with the heatsink. Release the heat sink and gently twist back and forth to break the bond. Trying to yank it as hard as you can is how you break stuff.

Also, they didn't force the entire cooling industry to adapt. The AM4 stock bracket can still accept any standard clip-on heatsink. that AMD has been using since the Socket 939 days.
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We must be talking about different sockets.
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We must be talking about different sockets.
No. ZIF Lever-lock sockets have been used since at least 1990 with Intel's Socket 2. Intel used the same exact socket style as AMD until 2004, where they switched to LGA775.
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You don't need to explain yourself.
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