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Acer Predator XB272-HDR and Asus ROG Swift PG27UQ ( 4K 27" 144Hz IPS HDR QD G-Sync Monitors )

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http://wccftech.com/g-sync-hdr-monitors-available-q2-2017/


The Asus ROG Swift PG27UQ


The Acer Predator XB272-HDR


PcPerspective Hands on at CES 2017 with the Asus ROG Swift PG27UQ (Right ) next to the PG27AQ ( Left )


HardwareCanucks with the Asus ROG Swift PG27UQ (Right ) next to the PG27AQ ( Left )

World's first 4K (3840 x 2160), 144Hz, G-SYNC HDR gaming monitors
2 models: Asus ROG Swift PG27UQ and Acer Predator XB272-HDR available in Q2.
Monitors certified by NVIDIA and fully integrated into GeForce Platform for the best end-to-end gaming experience
Hallmark G-SYNC variable refresh rate technology for tear-free, smooth and responsive gameplay
Unrivaled HDR image quality with vivid intensity, color and contrast
1000 nits peak brightness
384 zone full-array dynamically controlled direct LED backlight
DCI-P3 cinema grade color gamut with Quantum Dot technology
DP 1.4 and HDMI 2.0 inputs
HDR10 support
Virtually zero input latency from pixel arrival at monitor to photon emission from LCD (HDR TVs introduce 22-41ms latency).
 
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Man, a VA 144hz 4k panel with local dimming would be amazing in a 32"+ display, pls don't be 27".
 
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144Hz 4K- first of all, overkill for now, you'd need 2x Titan XP for maybe 70-80 fps STABLE in Ultra. In 2018 you would need 2x Volta Titan to push it anywhere near 120 fps+.

By this time already better monitors will be available so it is not even future proof.

Besides - 27"?? Like what the hell? I have my XB271HU 1440p 27 165Hz and I find the size to be the absolutely sweet spot for 1440p. For 4K I would like AT LEAST 32" if not even 40" monitor.

I want 144hz 1440p Ultra Wide
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Guys you have no idea how much of a gamechanger FALD+HDR are going to be.
Even if size, panel type and the aspect ratio are not to your liking - the images these monitors are going to produce will blow away all current monitors and all edge-lit LCD TV's no matter how expensive.
 
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Originally Posted by Sedolf View Post

Guys you have no idea how much of a gamechanger FALD+HDR are going to be.
Even if size, panel type and the aspect ratio are not to your liking - the images these monitors are going to produce will blow away all current monitors and all edge-lit LCD TV's no matter how expensive.
Now, if only we got a model with this panel in AR treated glossy...
 
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Guys you have no idea how much of a gamechanger FALD+HDR are going to be.
Even if size, panel type and the aspect ratio are not to your liking - the images these monitors are going to produce will blow away all current monitors and all edge-lit LCD TV's no matter how expensive.
Yeah FALD @ 384 zones!..... in HDR..... and it's suppose to be able to have a peak of 1000 nits for HDR

if they do a good job with the FALD, P-3 color space, and a decent IPS contrast ratio, the imagines this monitor might produce could be extremely impressive.

27" for gaming might not be terrible, scaling in windows wouldn't be great, and you're not getting the most out of the monitor at that resolution and screen size

and AUO IPS...
 
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Originally Posted by Sedolf View Post

Guys you have no idea how much of a gamechanger FALD+HDR are going to be.

Even if size, panel type and the aspect ratio are not to your liking - the images these monitors are going to produce will blow away all current monitors and all edge-lit LCD TV's no matter how expensive.
How good is FALD going to be on an IPS panel? Are they going to bin the bejesus out of these panels so that glow is as minimized as possible. Honestly, I think IPS was 100% the wrong type of panel for this.
 
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Originally Posted by Jedi Mind Trick View Post

How good is FALD going to be on an IPS panel? Are they going to bin the bejesus out of this panels so that glow is as minimized as possible. Honestly, I think IPS was 100% the wrong type of panel for this.
well the panel not being edge lit could make it easier to control things like BLB and light bloom, more FALD zones would make for a better HDR experience as well.

yeah if this panel was VA and 32", and assuming everything else is up to snuff this monitor would be irresistible.
 
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As far as displays go under 45" this is probably the best thing to come out of CES, but it'll be sold for north of $1500 i reckon and i'm not paying that for a 27" display, let alone IPS which will still have glow regardless of the dimming zones, and the contrast will not break 2000:1, so what's the point?

Was really hoping to see 40-45" displays shown off TVs or Monitors with HDR and a solid VA panel.
 
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I agree, was hoping to see some nice <49" tvs as I really want one for my small desk. Oh well, I guess I just have to use my current tv a bit longer.
 
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The choice of an IPS panel is definitely a questionable one but let's just wait for this thing to actually release before we start drawing conclusions. Who knows maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised in the end? If not, at least it's coming out towards the end of the year so we can look forward to CES 2018 instead I suppose...
 
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Originally Posted by MistaSparkul View Post

The choice of an IPS panel is definitely a questionable one but let's just wait for this thing to actually release before we start drawing conclusions. Who knows maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised in the end? If not, at least it's coming out towards the end of the year so we can look forward to CES 2018 instead I suppose...
Well, it beats SVA for text clarity and viewing angles, that's for certain. Dimming zones will virtually eliminate glow (keyword: virtually) while providing the benefits of AHVA vs SVA, which are response time consistency, viewing angles, and clarity. There's also AUO AMVA, which would have better text clarity, but we'd be stuck with 40+ ms transitions (unless some very impressive improvements have been made). The only thing i think will hurt this display slightly for desktop use is the slightly underwhelming number of zones, but that could be derived from technological or budget impediments at this point.

edit: as an addendum, this screenshot should illustrate what i imagined, basically.

Glow is virtually eliminated compared to the PG279Q, but that blooming is insane.
 
#18 ·
There are some IPS TVs with full array local dimming, two recent ones I can think of right now are the Panasonic AX900 and the Vizio P55-C1. You can read tests to see how they performed..
But they have less dimming zones (128 and 126) and also much bigger panels. FALD IPS is more prone to blooming/haloing than FALD VA, but with 384 zones at 27'' it should be less of an issue than on TV's. Unless they botch the implementation somehow (number of zones is most important but not the only factor) it should still look great most of the time.

Sony ZD9 momentary flagship TV has 648 zones @ 65'', it is based on a ~3000:1 VA panel, with local dimming enabled contrast easily pushes above 14000:1 and towards infinity depending on the test image. (source)
 
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Originally Posted by Egzi View Post

How would 2k look on this 4k monitor? Better or worse then running 2k on a native 2k monitor?
Pretty sure upscaling will always look worse. It is what it is.
 
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I wonder if Acer will actually beat Asus to market with a monitor featuring this new HDR panel. They've seemed to beat them the last couple of iterations using the same panels.
yeah, maybe Acer has a better business relationship with AUO then ASUS. I'm prob talking out of my butt here, but it did seem like Acer got the better panels from AUO as well even though they both had quality control problems.
 
#24 ·
Seems like that HDR IPS will fix the main issues of the regular trash IPS we are getting now as consumers, the problem is that it is going to be super expensive. Highly doubt that we are going to get some affordable high refresh models with this tech and by the time this may happen, OLED will get rolled out.
 
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