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Are 7700K binnings going to improve?

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Hey,

I just noticed that binned 7700Ks are on sale, but the voltage required to hit 5Ghz seemed a bit high to me. Is it going to improve in time, as you will have more CPUs to test and choose from? I'm currenly using 6700K @4.6 with 1.36 Vcore, a very bad clocker. So I want the upgrade to worth it, someting like 5.2Ghz with 1.4 or 5Ghz with v1.36
 
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Originally Posted by Nautilus View Post

Hey,

I just noticed that binned 7700Ks are on sale, but the voltage required to hit 5Ghz seemed a bit high to me. Is it going to improve in time, as you will have more CPUs to test and choose from? I'm currenly using 6700K @4.6 with 1.36 Vcore, a very bad clocker. So I want the upgrade to worth it, someting like 5.2Ghz with 1.4 or 5Ghz with v1.36
Delid one of our 5.1GHz bins, and it should do 5GHz around 1.35V.
 
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Originally Posted by Silicon Lottery View Post

Delid one of our 5.1GHz bins, and it should do 5GHz around 1.35V.
One more question: Do the binned chips are also better at handling high frequency memory? Such 4Ghz? My sucker 6700K is having hard time running at 3600Mhz ram.
 
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One more question: Do the binned chips are also better at handling high frequency memory? Such 4Ghz? My sucker 6700K is having hard time running at 3600Mhz ram.
Kaby Lake chips in general have better IMCs than Skylake, 4000 should be doable on most of them I'd imagine if your motherboard and memory are up to the task.

But yes in general, the better the core is, the better chance the memory controller is good as well.
 
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I'm running a delidded 4.9 Ghz 6700k cpu that I bought from SL and I am very happy with it. Is it even worth it to upgrade to a 5.2Ghz 7700k? From what I read, with matched clock speeds they run the same. Should I just wait for the next generation to come out. Any and all advice would be appreciated.
 
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Originally Posted by EdwardTeach123 View Post

I'm running a delidded 4.9 Ghz 6700k cpu that I bought from SL and I am very happy with it. Is it even worth it to upgrade to a 5.2Ghz 7700k? From what I read, with matched clock speeds they run the same. Should I just wait for the next generation to come out. Any and all advice would be appreciated.
Only you can decide whether or not it's worth it. Going from 4.9 to 5.2 is about a 6% performance increase. The best question is, is your current CPU the bottleneck in the software you use, and would improving that by 6% be worth the upgrade costs to you?
 
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Originally Posted by Silicon Lottery View Post

We have found a 5.3 7600K, and some 7700Ks that seemed close. I know they are out there somewhere, we are getting some new batches in soon so I hope we find some.
Fingers crossed for 5.3Ghz 7700K awesomeness. That would be a platinium, no no an unobtanium chip, let alone the golden. I hope it won't cost an arm + kidney. And by the looks of things, it will. 5.2Ghz ones are already sold at $700 atm. That's in the 8 core Broadwell-E price range.
 
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Originally Posted by OutlawII View Post

Wizzie are you getting a 7700K? I should be ordering this week
Just 7600k. Shipping right now.

Editing rights is annoying the hell out of me with managing the two threads and any possible future threads though.
 
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Originally Posted by Duality92 View Post

this exactly.

As far as voltages go, are they "safe" up to 1.45v like Skylake is? I don't mind going up to 1.5v with proper cooling, what kind of clocks could I get with this voltage? on a 5.2 chip?
Delidding would be required of course to bring the voltage up that high, but I don't have a good answer for you as I haven't had a chance to dabble north of 1.45V on ambient.
 
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Originally Posted by Silicon Lottery View Post

Delidding would be required of course to bring the voltage up that high, but I don't have a good answer for you as I haven't had a chance to dabble north of 1.45V on ambient.
Ok ok, I know my 6600K does 4.7 with 1.488v, but I don't mind the voltage because I'm watercooling, but I'd highly prefer getting much higher clock with this voltage.

I'm wondering that Kabylake would do in this range of voltage
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PM @ENTERPRISE and he can grant you editing rights back.
Did. Granted editing rights for half a year. Functionally not super terrible, but mentally it pisses me off.
 
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