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Hi guys.
Been away from the forums for almost 3 years as I took up cycling as a hobby where I got too serious and ended up competing. With this, I've completely lost track of the current technological advances and I don't know what is good nowadays.

Was wondering if you can help me upgrade and pick out which ones are good at the moment. Found myself playing a lot again so would want to see what I can do to improve the performance if I can on the games I play.
I have not experienced any lack of fPS whatsoever in games I have been playing even in ultra settings. Battlefield 1 has been giving me a bit of grief though, had to play that one between medium to high. Diablo 3 tends to lag a bit when there's a lot of units on the screen.
At the moment, I'm playing a lot of :
World of warcraft
Cs:GO
Overwatch
Diablo 3
Starcraft 2
Dying light
Battlefield 1


My current Pc is

Silverstone ft03
Maximus gene iv matx 1155
i5 2500k
Gtx 580 3gb
8gb ram
Thermal take 750 psu

Budget is ok but ready to spend the cash for the right upgrades. Was thinking of going mitx so I can take it with Mr when I go out of the country which happens every two months. Was thinking of getting a laptop but they're just too expensive.

Hard drives and ssd's are not a problem as I've been getting 250gb recently from sales.

Thanks a lot!
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post #2 of 34

How much can you spend? The very first upgrade you should do is, replace the GTX 580. That video card is definitely your biggest problem right now. To give you an idea of how much of an upgrade you can expect, I upgraded from a GTX 580 to the GTX 780 and even that was a big upgrade for me (I don't just mean 'big', I mean big). So, imagine getting like a GTX 1070.

 

I don't think the 2500K will be a big enough bottleneck to worry about right away, especially if it's overclocked to ~4.5 GHz. Even so, the 2500K is the next upgrade - but this would also require you to replace the motherboard and the memory. That's fine though because I think you will want 16 GB of memory, and I would say it's not a good idea to invest in more DDR3 memory right now unless you're comfortable with selling things (I'm not, so I assume that there are others like me).


Edited by TwoCables - 1/7/17 at 9:56am
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I don't have a budget at the moment meaning I'm willing to spend the cash on the right items. If I can leave the 2500k and the mono for now then that would be great.
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I don't have a budget at the moment meaning I'm willing to spend the cash on the right items. If I can leave the 2500k and the mono for now then that would be great.

 

Oh absolutely. I think you will be very surprised by how weak the GTX 580 really is. Sure, it's great for games that were kinda new when the GTX 580 came out, but that's about it now.

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post #5 of 34
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Oh absolutely. I think you will be very surprised by how weak the GTX 580 really is. Sure, it's great for games that were kinda new when the GTX 580 came out, but that's about it now.

That's what i was thinking, just worried if there will be some sort of bottlenecking issues with the 2500k and a newer graphics card. Budget wise. Looking at shops, I can afford sli 1070s or one 1080. Maybe a newer psu as well just to make sure that it's not on its way out.

Edit: I'm still playing ultra with my 580 though that's why I thought I didn't need to upgrade.
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post #6 of 34
sli is pointless, get a single gtx 1070 and call it a day, you should be able to run most anythning on decent settings @ 1080p and 1440p, since you most likely dont have a high refresh rate monitor either, if you find you are lacking in performance after the gpu upgrade you can use the 2500k until you are ready to upgrade the mb and cpu + ram, zen is about to launch in a few months or atleast thats what they want us to think, so that might be a good upgrade from the sandy.
Also SSD is a must have on any pc these days, I have been on the SSD boat since 2011 and cant imagine using a pc without it.
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I have at least 750gb ssd that I bought several months back from overclockers sale. 3x 250gb sods so I'm doing well in that department.

Thanks, reckon I'll go 1070 then and wait for this zen to come out.
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post #8 of 34

I would upgrade to the 1070 or even a 1060 would be a massive upgrade from a 580. But I would also consider upgrading the psu. Its not a bad psu but it is a pretty odd design and the voltage regulation isn't the greatest.

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That's what i was thinking, just worried if there will be some sort of bottlenecking issues with the 2500k and a newer graphics card. Budget wise. Looking at shops, I can afford sli 1070s or one 1080. Maybe a newer psu as well just to make sure that it's not on its way out.

Edit: I'm still playing ultra with my 580 though that's why I thought I didn't need to upgrade.

 

The bottleneck won't be big enough to worry about right away. You will be in heaven. Even so, the 2500K is just now beginning to show its age, so that's the next upgrade after the video card.

 

I thought you said in your original post that you have to play BF1 on Medium to High and Diablo 3 lags when there are a lot of units in view.

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post #10 of 34
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

The bottleneck won't be big enough to worry about right away. You will be in heaven. Even so, the 2500K is just now beginning to show its age, so that's the next upgrade after the video card.
I think it really depends on the resolution and how highly clocked his 2500k is. If it's at stock speeds then he'll have a huge bottleneck, hell even my GTX 1060 was bottlenecked by 2500k @ 4.6Ghz in Battlefield 1, although I did get comfortable and stable 80 fps. Things changed when I switched to 4k and Medium settings. My CPU usage was never above 80% with 60fps. However in most other games it ran just smooth. Though I would upgrade to 16GB of ram since I always monitor new games and at ultra settings they tend to go above 8GB, that is if he is to keep his CPU for another year.
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