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The title is click-bait first of all.. I also saw a lot of confirmation bias in that article, they've already made their minds up and are just twisting some of the data to confirm it. That isn't real science.

Everything should be treated with respect and done in moderation, especially with children. They should always be watched over and guided, taught how to deal with losing, etc., not just dumped in a room for hours. I'm willing to bet that kids with hands-on parents who play games will have a lot more benefits than negatives. Just like anything really.
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You know what I would be interested in? A study done on why this "research" keeps happening despite repeatedly being debunked every single year.
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Oh damn, better stay away from me. I gamed a hell of a lot longer than that when I was a kid.

"Males playing more video games had significantly greater odds of scoring borderline/abnormal on conduct (OR 1.07 (95% CI 1.02-1.12)) and emotional problems (OR 1.07 (95% CI 1.04-1.11)) for each additional hour of weekly use. This equates to 2.58-fold greater odds for a male that plays on average 2 hours per day per week."

Why is this even here? This has nothing to do with computers, games, or new tech being released...
     
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Emotional and conduct problems lol these kids simply wont simply behave and feel how the government/society want them to, maybe while playing games they're not receiving enough of their brainwashing and propaganda. Been gaming since age 7 fwiw, full time as well, so 27 years and no problems here lol.
Edited by delboy67 - 1/10/17 at 4:35am
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

Here is a perspective.....

As a Father of a child with Autism, my wife and I found he is most comfortable playing video games and drawing. As compared to going out and running around as much as the other kids. While he does join the others outside, he spends more time with video games and drawing than the others.

The problem with studies like this is it makes it easy to point to video games as a cause of behavior, when it isn't, thus leading to unaddressed issues. It was several years of multiple specialists to get our son the help he needed.

Reports like this just need to be careful, as they could lead to exclusion of activities that are helpful to many. Be it games, painting, singing, Yo-Yos.

Exactly. Games and similar activities offer controlled variables that children with autism, and autism like conditions find comforting. My youngest daughter has RAD and SPD (Reactive Attachment Disorded, Sensory Processing Disorder), which are very similar to the most common traits of autism. She enjoys any activities she can find patterns in and see common traits. My Little Pony for example, is her absolute favorite, and she can watch them all 50 times and be just fine since she knows what will happen, and why. Watching other random shows with her 1 year older sister gets frustrating because the shows are more random and disorienting... non-stop shtick and such.

I think a lot of what this study, and all the others like it are trying to prove can boil down to parenting issues. If little Johnny is having anger issues because you let him play a game beyond his age range, watch shows he shouldn't just because he thinks they're "cool", and so on, and he starts developing behaviors you don't like. Maybe you should intervene, cut out that material, and substitute more positive material or activities? Parent some.

Linking to the validity that negative media/gaming can influence children though, it's just common sense that it can... because parents let it happen. My step-son lives with his father (technically) but is actually raised by his paternal grandparents. They are the kind that live believing money is the only thing that matters and tv can raise your kid. They screwed up royally in raising the kid's dad, and are now doing the same thing with him. He has been raised in front of the tv and video games, has developed anger issues and abnormal behavior for his age, is completely socially inept, and has no care for anyone's personal belongings because the grandparents tell him to just go buy a new (whatever he breaks). The law says there's nothing you can do about bad parenting... fine... but at least be aware of the real causes. Violent video games, negative media, and so on... they're a contributing factor of course. The parents are the cause in a majority of the situations I'd wager.
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If they're adjacent to each other? Maybe. However:
In other words, there were also questions about socioeconomic status and BMI. We can rephrase your post and end up with:
Also this doesn't need a control, strictly speaking. A control group is good for changing exactly one aspect, such as placebos in drug trials. However, here it simply isn't possible. That's generally true in most of psychology and sociology. That doesn't make it wrong per se, since comparisons can be made within the group. I don't think anybody will argue that social sciences are as equally rigorous as physical sciences though. An acceptable R2 for correlation in a psych experiment is around 0.8 IIRC, while in physics it's more like 0.99 minimum. Humans are a bit more complex than subatomic particles. tongue.gif
Good thing you brought that up. There are rules associated to inferences regarding equations. Like A>B changes to "<" when you take their reciprocal. Such is the numerical value assessment. Inferring the 'R'(displacement) from R2(rate) is regressional fallacy. Consider R a number that doesn't take being sampled for its "absolute numberical value" kindly. You know the one class... Basically they are constants and are not relative to one another, they are not expressible relative to another unit frame of reference. Like "e" growth, and "i" chance. They just don't submit other than their R2 'rate' value. So, inferring not what has displaced before(since we aren't looking to them individually) just to look at its rate is misguided. Just because coin flips occured 50% times according to your prediction does not permit you to say the next time I flip it; it will come to this.
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Ah, the Internet. If there's a study agreeing with what it has already deemed Truth, the study is perfect, the case is closed, and it is a waste of money because anybody could have told you that. If there's a study disagreeing with Truth, it must be flawed in all ways and the researchers must be biased. thumb.gif

I'm exaggerating, but I see it all the time on reddit and, to a lesser extent, here. Skepticism is great, but a lot of the time it comes across as poopslinging trying to find something disagreeable, anything to discredit the paper and/or authors.

Your the last person I want to hear skepticism from, considering you had posted an article how you can go blind from sleeping on your cell phones, thus decreeing cell phones making them go temporarily blind, then your intellectually dishonest comment in support of your position as follows:
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Pretty scary. I'll stick to my flip phone, thank you very much.

Source

When it had nothing to do with cell phones, and everything to do with contrasting light sources for each eye, of which was stated in the article but was left with a click bait title regardless. Then later to edit a quote to prove your position as well. Then to not respond to anyone critical of your position.

The irony is all kinds of through the roof right now.

Granted, your behavior may have changed since then, but the contrast is real since the last time I seen your posts.
    
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Good thing that we have all these armchair scientists here at OCN to talk about this. Now I feel much smarter!
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Good thing that we have all these armchair scientists here at OCN to talk about this. Now I feel much smarter!
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Literally we should jail these people who prey on parents with separation anxiety.

I know it's the internet, but come on. This was really extreme.
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