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I am not advocating buying a prebuilt PC.
In real world use FX is much faster than Phenom II.
True, but my point was what is better for that price in a pre-built? 2 different questions.
Objective data is very objective. I bet you I could replace your i5 with an overclocked FX and you would never know the difference unless you saw a timer in most cases. wink.gif

Fx much faster than phenom? At the maximum the fx are just a bit faster than the phenoms, much faster? No. Phenoms were bandwidth limited. They had slow cache and memory throughput but overclocking the NB to around 2600-800. I wouldnt be surprised to see if a phenom with a nb oc be within touching distance to the fx.
    
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What they don't tell you is that they use a PSU that is so anemic that your system will shut off if you load it beyond 60% or so, or that despite using bulky mid tower cases, they don't actually install any case fans and exclusively use the cheapest of the cheap outdated clearance bin mATX motherboards and worse-than-stock HSFs that aren't even rated for the CPUs that they are coupled with.

By the time you're done replacing all the completely incompatible parts the system ships with, you've spent $1000 and have a computer worth $500 with no sensible upgrade path.

But hey, at least they ship with keyboards and mice that despite being super tacky looking, are slightly above the average quality you would receive with a typical prebuilt system supplier like Dell or a bottom tier Logitech. rolleyes.gif
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I am not advocating buying a prebuilt PC.

I did not assume you were given your time here at OCN & some of your OCing exploits linked to your flair. I posted that rebuttal because I do not want any uninformed people who may happen upon this thread to think that this PC is worth buying. You being a more senior member of OCN makes you posts carry more validity & IMO an uninformed person could easily take that off hand comment as an endorsement for this PC. So I just wanted to clarify what the PC truly consists of compared to a custom built PC with well selected parts or even a pre-buit PC from a less scrupulous pre-built manufacturer. I apologize if my OP came off like I was attacking your viewpoint. thumb.gif
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Fx much faster than phenom? At the maximum the fx are just a bit faster than the phenoms, much faster? No. Phenoms were bandwidth limited. They had slow cache and memory throughput but overclocking the NB to around 2600-800. I wouldnt be surprised to see if a phenom with a nb oc be within touching distance to the fx.
and then both are overclocked to their max and the 5ghz FX waves buy to to 4.2ghz Phenom
 
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and then both are overclocked to their max and the 5ghz FX waves buy to to 4.2ghz Phenom

You'd be surprise how little difference there is between a phenom x6 and fx 6300. Sadly i only got a phenom x6 and fx 8120 to test with. So i can only simulate an fx 6100/6200.
    
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At this point you'd be better off with PS4 Pro than this junk.
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I did not assume you were given your time here at OCN & some of your OCing exploits linked to your flair. I posted that rebuttal because I do not want any uninformed people who may happen upon this thread to think that this PC is worth buying. You being a more senior member of OCN makes you posts carry more validity & IMO an uninformed person could easily take that off hand comment as an endorsement for this PC. So I just wanted to clarify what the PC truly consists of compared to a custom built PC with well selected parts or even a pre-buit PC from a less scrupulous pre-built manufacturer. I apologize if my OP came off like I was attacking your viewpoint. thumb.gif

Agreed. I didn't take it that way. My point was really it's amazing how the tech community can take something as simple as companies offering a $150 discount on a product and turn it into a "bad" thing. LOL tongue.gif
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