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The wife needs a graphic designing workstation for when she works from the house. She uses Adobe InDesign, Photoshop, DreamWeaver, and Illustrator.
1. I'd like to outfit a BitFenix Prodigy Mini-ITX case I have laying around - save a few $$$ on a case.
2. She doesn't do any gaming and all of her work will be saved or backed up on a NAS.
3. I'd like it to be low noise and low power consumption if possible.

I know she's using an iMac at work right now. Can't remember the exact specs though.

Any suggestions?
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Better wait for Ryzen it can save you more in the long run.
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Better wait for Ryzen it can save you more in the long run.

When do you think that platform will be released, March?
Also, what kind of specs should I be looking for? Speed/core count of CPU, speed/capacity of RAM, etc.
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When do you think that platform will be released, March?
Also, what kind of specs should I be looking for? Speed/core count of CPU, speed/capacity of RAM, etc.

There is talk of it coming out next month, all AMD has said is Q1 (January 1-March 31) of this year. The flagship processor is supposed to be a 3.4GHz 8-core/16-thread cpu. It will have support for Dual Channel DDR4, but the supported speed/capacity hasn't been announced as of yet. I would imagine it will be the same as whatever Intel's current gen CPUs support.




Here is more info on AM4 Motherboards:
http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-am4-x370-motherboards-ces/
 
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I'm definitely going to upgrade to Ryzen for my gaming rig. I meant to ask what specs should I be looking for to build this Graphics Design based workstation. The adobe listed requirements are a little vague.
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For graphics design I think primary priority is RAM capacity and speed, then CPU cores and speed. I think Ryzen is your best bet if time is not of the essence. Like famous1994 said, rumors peg the release of Ryzen at the end of February. Who knows what availability will be like then, so if you can wait an extra month or two after release, Ryzen will net you a lot of performance for (most likely) much less cash than Intel.

Otherwise, here's a quick, fun build I threw together without a budget in mind:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus B150I PRO GAMING/WIFI/AURA Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($122.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 600p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($169.11 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ B&H)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1259.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Note the storage, I'd get as big an NVME M.2 drive you can afford, and 4 HDDs of the largest size you can afford. My understanding being, when she loads up resources / images / videos / whatever she's working on she'll want snappy responsiveness. That's where tons of RAM and good NVME storage comes in, plus a good-sized RAID 1+0. Also, with the new X300 AM4 chipset, you can keep most of this build and just swap in a Ryzen CPU and AM4 motherboard and call it good!

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I would say bare minimum you should run a 3ghz+ Quad Core, 16gbs of RAM and FirePro/Quadro videocard.
 
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Originally Posted by LazarusIV View Post

For graphics design I think primary priority is RAM capacity and speed, then CPU cores and speed. I think Ryzen is your best bet if time is not of the essence. Like famous1994 said, rumors peg the release of Ryzen at the end of February. Who knows what availability will be like then, so if you can wait an extra month or two after release, Ryzen will net you a lot of performance for (most likely) much less cash than Intel.

Otherwise, here's a quick, fun build I threw together without a budget in mind:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus B150I PRO GAMING/WIFI/AURA Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($122.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 600p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($169.11 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ B&H)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1259.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-11 11:48 EST-0500

Note the storage, I'd get as big an NVME M.2 drive you can afford, and 4 HDDs of the largest size you can afford. My understanding being, when she loads up resources / images / videos / whatever she's working on she'll want snappy responsiveness. That's where tons of RAM and good NVME storage comes in, plus a good-sized RAID 1+0. Also, with the new X300 AM4 chipset, you can keep most of this build and just swap in a Ryzen CPU and AM4 motherboard and call it good!

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What exactly are the toshiba drives for? Bulk storage?
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What exactly are the toshiba drives for? Bulk storage?

Yup, they basically serve as bulk storage and since they are in RAID 1+0 they will be a local back-up (redundancy, but obviously she should have another physical back-up and then an online back-up too) plus you will have increased read and write speeds from that RAID setup.

I'm not sure how important that is for photo editing, I think the critical aspects are lots of RAM, speedy storage to keep files local while she works on them, and fast CPU. Any other photo-editing experts feel free to chime in...

I believe Adobe and Photoshop both can use nVidia cards for accelerated rendering / processing so it might be worth looking into a Quadro workstation card too.
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Yup, they basically serve as bulk storage and since they are in RAID 1+0 they will be a local back-up (redundancy, but obviously she should have another physical back-up and then an online back-up too) plus you will have increased read and write speeds from that RAID setup.

I'm not sure how important that is for photo editing, I think the critical aspects are lots of RAM, speedy storage to keep files local while she works on them, and fast CPU. Any other photo-editing experts feel free to chime in...

I believe Adobe and Photoshop both can use nVidia cards for accelerated rendering / processing so it might be worth looking into a Quadro workstation card too.

Let's say we had a NAS in the home. Would this change anything with your recommendation? When she works from home, everything tied to her job is done over a VPN file sharing server. So, it's just temporary files she'd be working on before being uploaded back to the cloud. That being said, is having that much local storage in that raid necessary?
Also, the side work she gets isn't a whole lot and most of the projects aren't recurring - one-off poster/picture/billboard/seasonal designs, snapshot of finished product for portfolio, and trash the design file.

Thoughts?
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