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Thanks for sharing. thumb.gif

I guess that from what you said newer models from 2016 and future ones will be good enough for general usage based on what you said about them having solved the blue problem and the several mechanisms to clean the panel of image retentions, but the professional photo editing example I gave can still present a problematic scenario where precision is paramount and in contrast to the image retention that happens when displaying static images for a few minutes.

Say, you're editing part of an image on the right and then go to the left and can't really rely on what you're seeing and the outcome of your editing because there will be an image retention overlay of how the image was previously, skewing the feedback that the monitor is giving you of what you just changed / wanted to change on the image. It could be tricky to work with such a monitor. With a conventional monitor image quality isn't as good and the backlight may not be the most uniform ever, but you're working with a more steady set of conditions over a normal workflow period.

Could that be the reason for them to not produce a desktop version? Or is the OLED spacing a problem for long term reliability? Demand would always be low, but I'm sure that if the panel delivered there wouldn't be a lack of professionals wanting and being able to afford one.

The image retention doesn't work like that, at least on current LG OLED. I've only ever seen image retention on dark gray solid patterns (<10% luminance) that I put on it to test. Red, green, blue, etc shows nothing. I don't think it skews actual content at all, even pictures, as I've had solid images up for 3-4 hours at a time, moved them, and see zero difference where the image was.

As for why they stopped producing this, I believe it was 100% a cost versus demand call. They could have fixed the issue, but they already put so much money into development and weren't close to finishing it. The higher ups likely made a judgement call and said, if we put the rest of development into this we will never make the money back due to the high cost of the monitor.

Give it time. With many companies releasing OLED TVs this year, it's clear OLED is in high demand. I give it 2-3 more years before we start seeing companies developing actual monitors.
Edited by Murlocke - 1/11/17 at 2:54pm
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Give it time. With many companies releasing OLED TVs this year, it's clear OLED is in high demand. I give it 2-3 more years before we start seeing companies developing actual monitors.
That's my fear, actually. You just know they're going to put AG coatings on them, then. tongue.gif
    
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It's been so long. I just want to be able to enjoy games like FEAR again. 3 more years... I guess after 14 years of waiting for a decent monitor, what's another 3?
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That's my fear, actually. You just know they're going to put AG coatings on them, then. tongue.gif
Matte coatings are the lesser devil. You just can't use a display with a glossy coating unless you are in a total dark room. My Samsung TV reflects even the light of a monitor several feets away.
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Matte coatings are the lesser devil. You just can't use a display with a glossy coating unless you are in a total dark room. My Samsung TV reflects even the light of a monitor several feets away.

No way ... loved my catleap monitor (glossy screen) - no probs what so ever using it for ... everything games/trading stocks surfing etc ...
    
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Matte coatings are the lesser devil. You just can't use a display with a glossy coating unless you are in a total dark room. My Samsung TV reflects even the light of a monitor several feets away.

When you get OLED, you'll only want to watch it with the lights off anyway. tongue.gif

I've put dimmer lights in my room and keep the room pretty dark at all times, it just looks way better. The brighter the room, the less OLED makes a difference. The dedicated home theater room I am building this spring will actually have no windows, 10 foot ceilings with in-ceiling lighting, all on two dimmers for absolute control and zero glare.

I agree if you can't get your lighting right, full glossy can be a nightmare but it's worth it to just fix the lighting. Dimmer switch and some dimmable bulbs goes a long way in any room and is cheap.
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If you were OK with a 27" 1080p display @ $500+ USD, then technically LG could totally make an OLED monitor right now.

(because their smallest 4k OLED is 54.6", so from that you could make exactly four 27.3" 1080p displays)

Alternatively, LG could turn a single 54.6" 4k panel into three 31 inch 2160x1280 displays @ $650+ USD.

 

My personal theory on why they haven't done this is because the markets for $500+ monitors and 1080p 27" displays very rarely intersect.
 
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If you were OK with a 27" 1080p display @ $500+ USD, then technically LG could totally make an OLED monitor right now.

(because their smallest 4k OLED is 54.6", so from that you could make exactly four 27.3" 1080p displays)

Alternatively, LG could turn a single 54.6" 4k panel into three 31 inch 2160x1280 displays @ $650+ USD.

 

My personal theory on why they haven't done this is because the markets for $500+ monitors and 1080p 27" displays very rarely intersect.

I would accept even 27"@1920x1080 to have an affordable OLED monitor. I'd just increase the viewing distance to compensate for the nasty pixel pitch. I don't see the point of 27"@1920x1080 LCDs in the current market, but I'd take an OLED one in a heartbeat.
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Just give me Quantum Dot already!

OLED would suck for monitors. Color shift, ghosting, short lifespan and burn-in.
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this sucks, not like i could have afforded the thing but i was hyped for it none the less
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