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That's my fear, actually. You just know they're going to put AG coatings on them, then. tongue.gif
Matte coatings are the lesser devil. You just can't use a display with a glossy coating unless you are in a total dark room. My Samsung TV reflects even the light of a monitor several feets away.
That's why they developed other surfaces, such as moth eye. My monitor is from 2004, and it has an excellent (truly) AR treated glass which protects very well against reflections. Expensive Dells and the new Ultra Fine LG's for Apple all are AR treated glossy, and they're effective at preventing glare and very clear looking, like any glossy display.

Obviously, one can simply illuminate the room from behind the monitor to avoid direct reflections, but the point is that having a non-AG coating doesn't mean ruined experience with reasonably lit rooms.
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My 2cents.gif : I would kill for a high-refresh OLED monitor with reasonable input lag and response time.
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That's why they developed other surfaces, such as moth eye. My monitor is from 2004, and it has an excellent (truly) AR treated glass which protects very well against reflections. Expensive Dells and the new Ultra Fine LG's for Apple all are AR treated glossy, and they're effective at preventing glare and very clear looking, like any glossy display.

Obviously, one can simply illuminate the room from behind the monitor to avoid direct reflections, but the point is that having a non-AG coating doesn't mean ruined experience with reasonably lit rooms.
You're probably talking about plasma deposition coating. It's better than traditional AG, but still it's not that good like true glossy. There's no "one size fits all" solution, there's always going to be some compromise in clarity. I love how Picture on Glass LG TV's look, that would look great on a monitor, assuming that the glass is actually gapless like on phones.
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You're probably talking about plasma deposition coating.
No, i'm not. I'm talking about glass.

Either way, any method is better than AG coatings, be it moth eye, glossy, low-haze semi-glossy, AR treated, or full-on tempered glass, gapless or otherwise. Any would be better than what we see on your average monitor.
    
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I really wish Pioneer were still in the game. While plasma had more flaws than probably any display tech, it was amazing what Pioneer did back in the day (comparatively). I'll never forget seeing the Kuro Elite at B&H in NYC. Next to the Sony LCD HDTV at the time it was night and day.
    
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I really wish Pioneer were still in the game. While plasma had more flaws than probably any display tech, it was amazing what Pioneer did back in the day (comparatively). I'll never forget seeing the Kuro Elite at B&H in NYC. Next to the Sony LCD HDTV at the time it was night and day.

Indeed. thumb.gif The KURO engineering team was something special. Was essentially a cost-no-object R&D effort that produced what is still today considered by many to be one of the best displays ever created (the 9G/9.5G KURO panels).

I still have one of my PRO-141FD's and it still destroys +95% of what is available/produced today. Even though OLED truly is jaw-dropping, it actually isn't so much better that I felt immediately compelled to replace my last remaining 141FD (in fact the 141FD among others are still superior in pretty much all but contrast/resolution). People often forget how amazing & bleeding edge KURO's really were (back in 2008, no less!). At 60" though, I'm beginning to want something a little bigger for my man-cave and my next display will most definitely be a huge 4K OLED panel!
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*sigh* Looks like we got another decade to go for OLED panels.
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*sigh* Looks like we got another decade to go for OLED panels.

CES 2017 my hope was second wave of PC OLED screen. Basically we back to 2014 in terms of OLED advancements. Even if we have a product in 2018 CES it would probably take 2-3 year to drop under $1000. Maybe we might just get Korean OLED from LG panels.
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Basically we back to 2014 in terms of OLED advancements.
LG's 2017 OLED TVs supposedly have 22ms of input lag and may (emphesis on "may") support native 120Hz input.

Even if they're still limited to HDMI 2.0 (4:2:0 chroma at 4k 120hz and limited to 100Hz for 10bit 4k 120hz), that's still quite the advancement in my book.
 
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*sigh* Looks like we got another decade to go for OLED panels.

CES 2017 my hope was second wave of PC OLED screen. Basically we back to 2014 in terms of OLED advancements. Even if we have a product in 2018 CES it would probably take 2-3 year to drop under $1000. Maybe we might just get Korean OLED from LG panels.

Still, I bet they won't be cheap.
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