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LG's 2017 OLED TVs supposedly have 22ms of input lag and may (emphesis on "may") support native 120Hz input.

Even if they're still limited to HDMI 2.0 (4:2:0 chroma at 4k 120hz and limited to 100Hz for 10bit 4k 120hz), that's still quite the advancement in my book.

Where did you get info about 120 Hz on 2017 sets?
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Where did you get info about 120 Hz on 2017 sets?
Remember, I said "emphasis on may" for a reason.


Nevertheless, it's based the following information:

1. LG demonstrated native non-interpolated 100/120hz on OLED back in September:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1473185035

2. At least the Korean-spec version of LG's 2017 TVs will support ATSC 3.0:
http://ces2017.lgnewsroom.com/news/lg-introduces-first-4k-uhd-tvs-next-gen-tv-broadcast-standard/

3. The ATSC 3.0 standard includes frame rates up to 120fps:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATSC_3.0#Video


So again, emphasis on may.
 
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I think something like that has a probability of virtually zero, "may" being quite a strong term. They would explicitly design that into the chip-set and firmware and advertise it if it were the case.
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LG's 2017 OLED TVs supposedly have 22ms of input lag and may (emphesis on "may") support native 120Hz input.

Even if they're still limited to HDMI 2.0 (4:2:0 chroma at 4k 120hz and limited to 100Hz for 10bit 4k 120hz), that's still quite the advancement in my book.

So for PC we can't really run HDR with HDMI 2.0. We need DP 1.3 for HDR or DP 1.3 for 120Hz and no HDR. We cant have both.
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So for PC we can't really run HDR with HDMI 2.0. We need DP 1.3 for HDR or DP 1.3 for 120Hz and no HDR. We cant have both.

1. You can do HDR with 8bit, it just has more color banding.

2. What's wrong with 100Hz? Sure it's less than 120Hz, but it's still better than 60Hz.

3. Contrary to popular belief, you don't need 100+Hz for PC; there are actually people that use *gasp* 60Hz.
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1. You can do HDR with 8bit, it just has more color banding.

2. What's wrong with 100Hz? Sure it's less than 120Hz, but it's still better than 60Hz.

3. Contrary to popular belief, you don't need 100+Hz for PC; there are actually people that use *gasp* 60Hz.

I am 60Hz user here. I was just talking DP requirement here. 60Hz HDR uses same bandwidth as 120Hz SDR but is easier to run.
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I would absolutely kill for an LG OLED 4K that could do 100 Hz. The different between 60 and 100 Hz is quite dramatic and falls off from there.
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I would absolutely kill for an LG OLED 4K that could do 100 Hz. The different between 60 and 100 Hz is quite dramatic and falls off from there.

Yeah, especially if some form of adaptive sync is thrown into the mix.
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I would absolutely kill for an LG OLED 4K that could do 100 Hz. The different between 60 and 100 Hz is quite dramatic and falls off from there.

One thing I'm somewhat paranoid about though is that supposedly you can't get 50Hz on the US-spec 2016 OLEDs even with a custom resolution.

Therefore even if native 120Hz input was supported, you might not get 100Hz input unless you have a European/Australian-spec TV.


...unless you are able to use the UK/Australian firmware on a US TV (I believe there were people using the Korean firmware on their US TV?) since the European/Australian-spec TVs even include 50Hz in the EDID.
 
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One thing I'm somewhat paranoid about though is that supposedly you can't get 50Hz on the US-spec 2016 OLEDs even with a custom resolution.

Therefore even if native 120Hz input was supported, you might not get 100Hz input unless you have a European/Australian-spec TV.


...unless you are able to use the UK/Australian firmware on a US TV (I believe there were people using the Korean firmware on their US TV?) since the European/Australian-spec TVs even include 50Hz in the EDID.

Does that not have to do with AC power being at 50Hz?
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