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Ok, so i want a big 4K monitor (the 24"-34" are too small for me in 4k resolution)

Questions:

1. is X800D the best one right now since it doesn't have PWM flickering (like samsungs have)
2. how likely that we will see some better TVs for monitor use in 2017? (i checked the ces2017 highlights and every makers is dead set on Q/OLEDs)
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I'd get the 43" model if you care about blacks and it will also have a nicer 102.46 PPI vs the 49s 89.91 PPI which would look like poo up close.

If you need the 49" for its IPS for whatever reason then its a good buy for a TV/PC monitors at a smallish size with HDR.

There are surely going to be better TVs introduced this year, but how many of those will be between 40-50"? Very little, the focus is typically on 50+ models that have high end panels and features.

I'd say an X800D is a good budget buy at the moment until there are HDMI 2.1 TVs with dynamic HDR etc. I've been eyeing the 43" Sony myself for movie and console use.
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Originally Posted by Malinkadink View Post

I'd get the 43" model if you care about blacks and it will also have a nicer 102.46 PPI vs the 49s 89.91 PPI which would look like poo up close.

If you need the 49" for its IPS for whatever reason then its a good buy for a TV/PC monitors at a smallish size with HDR.

There are surely going to be better TVs introduced this year, but how many of those will be between 40-50"? Very little, the focus is typically on 50+ models that have high end panels and features.

I'd say an X800D is a good budget buy at the moment until there are HDMI 2.1 TVs with dynamic HDR etc. I've been eyeing the 43" Sony myself for movie and console use.

I don't really have a budget and can afford to buy anything.

But i want something bigger than 43" because at 4k resolution i will have hard time squinting at stuff.
I currently have 38" widescreen LG and at native resolution (3840 x 1600) screen stuff (text, icons, etc) is on the smallish side for me.

PPI shouldn't be a problem. My 10 year old Dell 30" has something like 101ppi and i somehow like it better than the 38" LG 109ppi (things are easier to see)

What concerns me is the eye strain. I heard Samsungs have better picture but they have PWM flicker. So i'm trying to avoid it.
I think i'll grab the X800D and when/if new TV come out in 2017 i will just get a new one and hang older X800D in a spare room.
Edited by Kuat - 1/11/17 at 3:28pm
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The 43" X800D is 103 PPI so its very close to the 101 you preferred. The 49" will be 90 ppi and its a huge difference, but its all relative to how far you plan to sit from the screen. The 49 KS8000 is a great set and has an amazing picture, but yes it does have PWM flickering, so if you're sensitive to that just avoid it completely. The 43 and 49 Sony are identical aside from one being larger and sporting IPS and the other being smaller and sporting a VA. If blacks are important go with the smaller one, if viewing angles are more important and you want text and other elements to appear a bit larger and easier to read then go with the 49".

If you're going to be using the TV on a desk sitting around 2-3 feet from it, the 43" will be much better to look at with the higher pixel density, if you have room to scoot back some more then the 49" will look fine.
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I don't really have a budget and can afford to buy anything.

But i want something bigger than 43" because at 4k resolution i will have hard time squinting at stuff.
I currently have 38" widescreen LG and at native resolution (3840 x 1600) screen stuff (text, icons, etc) is on the smallish side for me.

PPI shouldn't be a problem. My 10 year old Dell 30" has something like 101ppi and i somehow like it better than the 38" LG 109ppi (things are easier to see)

What concerns me is the eye strain. I heard Samsungs have better picture but they have PWM flicker. So i'm trying to avoid it.
I think i'll grab the X800D and when/if new TV come out in 2017 i will just get a new one and hang older X800D in a spare room.

4k at 40" has about the same ppi as a 27" 1440p monitor. Which IMO is the perfect amount of PPI.

I couldn't go back to using something lower than that TBH, but anything too much higher than that would start requiring the use of scaling.


If you like the ppi of a 23" 1080p monitor then a larger 4k screen may be what you want.
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i personally have the 43" xbr43x830c sitting about 3 feet away and cant imagine sitting this close to anything larger (although im looking at the oled panels and its super tempting)

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i personally have the 43" xbr43x830c sitting about 3 feet away and cant imagine sitting this close to anything larger (although im looking at the oled panels and its super tempting)

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Ok, so i want a big 4K monitor (the 24"-34" are too small for me in 4k resolution)

Questions:

1. is X800D the best one right now since it doesn't have PWM flickering (like samsungs have)
2. how likely that we will see some better TVs for monitor use in 2017? (i checked the ces2017 highlights and every makers is dead set on Q/OLEDs)


1. well, yes, but the 4K TVs come with huge input lag (this model has 33ms IIRC. The best gaming LCD sony ever produced was KDL-W653A, with a 6.5ms input lag, which is just insane for a big VA screen. 1080p only, tho.
2. I wouldn't count on it, TV use as monitors is a fairly small niche, thus, big companies don't care much for important stuff like input lag too much. Besides, one has to check if the 4K TV he's after does 1080p right. If it's done via interpolation, it's obviously done wrong. Sadly, a big number of displays does not map 4 pixels as one (producing flawless 1080p content) but instead interpolates, which results in a blurry mess on the screen. Reviewers don't check for that, ever.
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