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How good is a fx 6300/6350 at 5GHz and is that a feasible target with accommodating cooling and motherboard?

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:eek:Title says it all. Curious if that's decent for games and if there is a real difference between a 6300 and a 6350 aside from 20 or so dollars.
 
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For the record, I am aware Intel kicks AMD's butt. But if you want to bring it up, tell me how a 5ghz 6300 compares to the new i3 7350k which costs more than double. (89ish vs 180ish). Not to mention it would take a more expensive motherboard and more expensive RAM. I'm serious though, how well would 5GHZ on a 6300 compare?
 
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For the record, I am aware Intel kicks AMD's butt. But if you want to bring it up, tell me how a 5ghz 6300 compares to the new i3 7350k which costs more than double. (89ish vs 180ish). Not to mention it would take a more expensive motherboard and more expensive RAM. I'm serious though, how well would 5GHZ on a 6300 compare?
I can't tell you how they compare but there is not a very good chance of running a 6300 or 6350 at 5 GHz with any real amount of stability without a steep vcore and resultant heat. You would need a real good aftermarket cooler. A really good motherboard. A case with really good airflow. Lastly a very good 6300/6350. Even with all that there is no guarantee. I have a 6300 in a rig with a Sabertooth 990FX R2. At 4.8 GHz. Getting it from 4.8 to 5.0 wasn't worth the added vcore and heat output.
 
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I can't tell you how they compare but there is not a very good chance of running a 6300 or 6350 at 5 GHz with any real amount of stability without a steep vcore and resultant heat. You would need a real good aftermarket cooler. A really good motherboard. A case with really good airflow. Lastly a very good 6300/6350. Even with all that there is no guarantee. I have a 6300 in a rig with a Sabertooth 990FX R2. At 4.8 GHz. Getting it from 4.8 to 5.0 wasn't worth the added vcore and heat output.
Now, it is my understanding that the inside of a 6350 is identical to that of an 8350 but with a module locked. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Would it not be safe to say that a 6350 would overclock better than its 8 core 4 module counterpart?

Let's also say, that I'm willing and equipped to deal with a Vcore of up to 1.55; which as I've hear is 5GHz territory. 1.49-1.56 to be exact are the ranges I've heard of.
 
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Now, it is my understanding that the inside of a 6350 is identical to that of an 8350 but with a module locked. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Would it not be safe to say that a 6350 would overclock better than its 8 core 4 module counterpart?

Let's also say, that I'm willing and equipped to deal with a Vcore of up to 1.55; which as I've hear is 5GHz territory. 1.49-1.56 to be exact are the ranges I've heard of.
A 6350 would clock the same as an 8350. All the higher end FX chips seem to run from 4.6 to 4.9 GHz give or take regardless of the core count. THe 8350 would just throw off a bit more heat.
 
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Now, it is my understanding that the inside of a 6350 is identical to that of an 8350 but with a module locked. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Would it not be safe to say that a 6350 would overclock better than its 8 core 4 module counterpart?

Let's also say, that I'm willing and equipped to deal with a Vcore of up to 1.55; which as I've hear is 5GHz territory. 1.49-1.56 to be exact are the ranges I've heard of.
A 6350 would clock the same as an 8350. All the higher end FX chips seem to run from 4.6 to 4.9 GHz give or take regardless of the core count. THe 8350 would just throw off a bit more heat.
That is about how i would put it.

Most of these chips have a voltage wall that is generally above 4.7 ghz in most situations, where this wall is on an individual chip is, determines what is the highest practical daily overclock will be.

As an example, I have an 8370 that will run 4.9 ghz at 1.45 volts or so but needs nearly 1.55 to run 5 ghz - that's a huge jump in cooling and power required to support that extra 100 mhz and it frankly is very questionable if it is worth it.

There isn't anything magical about 5 ghz either and if you can manage 4.5+ , most games can be made to maintain fps above the refresh rate of the most common monitors with the FX. Of the games it can't , well nether can almost any other chip.
 
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