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I figured out the huge temps on my 4.9ghz overclock, its due to VCCSA and Agent having to run near 1.25/1.30 to keep my 3600 CL15 memory stable :O

I dont think its worth going 5ghz and drastically having to reduce my memory speed though, especially in cpu bound games.

Just curious, has anyone tried underclocking their ICH? I havent found intel specs but i think it runs around 1v by default.

Do you think it's worth the high temperatures just to have a stable 3600 CL15 memory? Would you lose many FPS by going for 3200 CL16 with the advantage of lowering your voltages and getting lower temps and as a result lower noise from the cooling?
    
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Finally got around to testing 1st 7700k (G023) after delid. Initial "impression"

53/50 @ 1.44v isn't stellar, but for msrp, is a gem. In reality F977 wasn't all that much better on water. Getting used to new mobo (From M8I to M9A), but should be on LN2 with it in nest week or two.
you try the 3866c12 preset yet? should be straight forward. That board really hums right along. and it can do some crazy stuff:


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I figured out the huge temps on my 4.9ghz overclock, its due to VCCSA and Agent having to run near 1.25/1.30 to keep my 3600 CL15 memory stable :O

I dont think its worth going 5ghz and drastically having to reduce my memory speed though, especially in cpu bound games.

Just curious, has anyone tried underclocking their ICH? I havent found intel specs but i think it runs around 1v by default.
the auto settings for 3600c15 will push vccio and vsa. you can lower these by alot. should be no more than 1.2 vccio and 1.25vsa. I have that kit running 3866c15 (1.45V) with vsa at 1.175 and vccio at 1.15V. AUTO and VOLT are 2 four letter words. wink.gif

@peter2k - the question was overclocking and secondly features. Not sure what you believe is missing from the Apex... but sure, compared to the M9 Extreme, EVERY board is lacking. smile.gif
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@peter2k - the question was overclocking and secondly features. Not sure what you believe is missing from the Apex... but sure, compared to the M9 Extreme, EVERY board is lacking. smile.gif

All I need is a CPU socket. RAM slots are nice features, PCI is optional. Overclocking jumpers are for the enthusiasts. I still miss the AGP port. rolleyes.gif

    
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All I need is a CPU socket. RAM slots are nice features, PCI is optional. Overclocking jumpers are for the enthusiasts. I still miss the AGP port. rolleyes.gif


Reminds me of the old AMD chips I used to overclock. Ahh the good old days.
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@peter2k - the question was overclocking and secondly features. Not sure what you believe is missing from the Apex... but sure, compared to the M9 Extreme, EVERY board is lacking. smile.gif


well the M9 extreme is obviously the one with the most features, for the prices it better, yet I'm missing the armour shroud for a cleaner look on that board

the extreme outlier aside


all ROG boards are within the same price range, 300 bucks
some a bit more, some a bit less

as for the Apex
I think the 2 RAM slots are putting me off
it only offers 2 banks for a reason, and high density RAM sticks should also be troublesome to get to high speeds as well

remember we're talking about what the Apex can do compared to all the other Asus ROG offerings
4266 RAM speed vs 4133


you just take the ones that tick all the boxes

the Hero if you want to save a few bucks
the Apex if youre a bencher I guess
the formula if you like the look and want built in MU-MIMO wifi

the Rampage if you want to go 2011-v3 (which costs more again, but you get quad channel if that is worth to ones workload)

they all overclock the same, have the same bios settings, all get advertised to reach 4133 speeds



actually the Hero already ticks all the boxes if you don't want built into wifi

the Apex sure makes the impression of being build for people who will put a pot on it and pour some LN2 down its throat
it has two 8 pin power connectors
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eek.gif Does this fit into Intel's Vcore specifications or it's a bit suspicious?

Settings that might be the cause, especially the offset:

    
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This is the ddr4 at 3333mhz original timeings at 1.360v



This is the ddr4 at 3333mhz with tighter timings at 1.405v



From what I understand there should be no problem running the ddr4 at 1.405v 24/7, right ?
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Do you guys think I need to delid, these temperatures on insane on a watercooling loop?

It is so much work for that extra 200mhz. Thoughts? BTW this isn't super stable at 5.3ghz, but it is bootable.


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This is the ddr4 at 3333mhz original timeings at 1.360v



This is the ddr4 at 3333mhz with tighter timings at 1.405v



From what I understand there should be no problem running the ddr4 at 1.405v 24/7, right ?

it's fine for 24/7

if you would have to bump voltage even a bit more for stability you could even do that

though be sure there's some kind of air flow thumb.gif (I'm sure there is)
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Do you guys think I need to delid, these temperatures on insane on a watercooling loop?

It is so much work for that extra 200mhz. Thoughts? BTW this isn't super stable at 5.3ghz, but it is bootable.




in honesty I have no experience with the stresstool you're using there on the CPU

you're not even reaching 80 degrees there
I've seen people saying they reach 100 degrees at 5Ghz without delid in the delid thread


that being said
using one of the "approved" stress tests might yield a lot higher temps

kaby lake OC is all voltage, temps and luck of the draw

less temps enables more voltage, gives more stability/clocks

you have to know if going from 5 Ghz or so is worth the effort
not us biggrin.gif
it's already the magical number thumb.gif

if it's stable at 5.2 and doesn't go over 80 you could leave it as is
if you really don't want to go through the trouble or know someone you could do it for you/ship the CPU to
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