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Originally Posted by scracy View Post

Firstly welcome to the OCN forums smile.gif. Overclocking is so much easier these days relative to the old days of overclocking through the front side bus, best thing I can suggest is to read the opening post guide to overclocking KabyLake. Essentially all you need to do is change your Vcore and multiplier then test for stability using one of the recommended programs in the opening post. That's pretty much the basics once you establish the lowest Vcore for your overclock then start overclocking your memory (or use XMP) followed by your uncore also known as cache. Once you make a start Im sure most of us here will be happy to help if you have any problems.
Hey and thanks for the reply. I've already read that, but before I proceed I'd like to be as informed as possible. I checked that the XMP profile is enabled by default on my memory, which is showing 1200 DRAM (2400mhz). However, I am kind of confused whether or not I should overclock that, because there's no other setting listed in there. Also, other advanced options which based on my pc specs should be tweaked accordingly. What would you recommend? I will be very grateful if you could provide me some sample on settings I should use. Thanks!

P.S. Is it bad that I have purchased 2400mhz ram?
Edited by loth - 4/16/17 at 3:40pm
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Originally Posted by becks View Post

In Bios where you have your AVX negative offset put in 1 or 2
Also put XMP off..
Select ddr speed 3600
Go into DDR timing control sub menu and select 16 16 (16 if you have the 3rd opnion...but doubt it ) 38
Put Ddr Voltage to 1.35
Lower VCCIO to 1.125
Lower System agent to 1.125

See if that changes the temps

Thanks for the tips. Helped a bit for RealBench temps, but gaming still got up to high 80s and grazed 90 still. I played around with voltage a bit and 4.9GHz at 1.25v seems to be giving me decent temps while still running stable, keeping it mostly in the 70s while gaming and only reaching 80 occasionally. Unless there's other things to play with to help further I might just leave it there for more comfortable temps.
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Originally Posted by loth View Post

Hey and thanks for the reply. I've already read that, but before I proceed I'd like to be as informed as possible. I checked that the XMP profile is enabled by default on my memory, which is showing 1200 DRAM (2400mhz). However, I am kind of confused whether or not I should overclock that, because there's no other setting listed in there. Also, other advanced options which based on my pc specs should be tweaked accordingly. What would you recommend? I will be very grateful if you could provide me some sample on settings I should use. Thanks!

P.S. Is it bad that I have purchased 2400mhz ram?
Firstly I would disable your XMP profile and run the memory at 2133Mhz (stock) work on overclocking the core first, maybe try a multiplier of 50 and a Vcore of 1.3 ish volts with a base clock of 100Mhz leave the cache at auto for the time being. Give those settings a quick test with Cinebench R15 to get a rough idea of stability, if it passes that try Realbench or OCCT for an hour, if it fails increase your Vcore to 1.325V assuming temperature is not a problem. 2400Mhz memory is fine for general purpose use memory speed doesn't make a huge difference in the real world, that said 3200Mhz is the sweet spot cost vs performance.
Edited by scracy - 4/16/17 at 4:13pm
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Ok, my reply in sequence:
1. Yes I use this cpu 'out of the box' without delidded (on my previous 6700K I did it, but for 7700k I`m thinking about it but don`t see strong reason now) and thermal paste I use "Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal "
2. My cooling system now - water custom loop (240mm radiator), I`m going to install 2*420mm but when I get EK water block for my 1080ti.
3. Now I setup 1.35V for 4800Mhz and Auto or Overriden mode, because Adaptive works wrong (enstead of 1.35V will be between 1.30 - 1.38V)
4. Any lower voltage don`t work for 4800MHz (I checked), so now I`m stuck with 4800 and 1.35V and 75 Celcium degrees after 30min test in Intel Extreme Tuning Utility , by the way under load voltage will be 1.30V but for successfull pass test I have to setup 1.35V in bios.
5. And I use HWInfo too

I know, maybe I need to sell this MB and buy new one for Z270 chipset, which can provide me more stable voltage for cpu.

My Gaming Pro Carbon is beast board.. no complain at all thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by scracy View Post

Firstly welcome to the OCN forums smile.gif. Overclocking is so much easier these days relative to the old days of overclocking through the front side bus, best thing I can suggest is to read the opening post guide to overclocking KabyLake. Essentially all you need to do is change your Vcore and multiplier then test for stability using one of the recommended programs in the opening post. That's pretty much the basics once you establish the lowest Vcore for your overclock then start overclocking your memory (or use XMP) followed by your uncore also known as cache. Once you make a start Im sure most of us here will be happy to help if you have any problems.

I kinda disagree because the days of upping FSB was actually pretty easy. You just upped FSB and compensated Vcore. I feel like you need to worry about a few more things nowadays especially with multiple Vcore methods. Either way it's not significantly different--the basics remain the same. Keep testing for stability as you up settings bit by bit.

It might be a bit easier given most people just leave BCLK at 100 and up the multiplier bit by bit now. You'd have way too many combinations back when you were just upping FSB bit by bit. With that said I felt like Bloomfield/Nehalem overclocking was a pain.
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I kinda disagree because the days of upping FSB was actually pretty easy. You just upped FSB and compensated Vcore. I feel like you need to worry about a few more things nowadays especially with multiple Vcore methods. Either way it's not significantly different--the basics remain the same. Keep testing for stability as you up settings bit by bit.

It might be a bit easier given most people just leave BCLK at 100 and up the multiplier bit by bit now. You'd have way too many combinations back when you were just upping FSB bit by bit. With that said I felt like Bloomfield/Nehalem overclocking was a pain.
Really it is much easier now all you have to do is up the Vcore a little at a time in Bios until it is stable. That is all I do since 2011 when they introduced Adaptive/Dynamic Vcore, I don't watch anything besides temperature during stress testing with Prime95.smile.gif
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I kinda disagree because the days of upping FSB was actually pretty easy. You just upped FSB and compensated Vcore. I feel like you need to worry about a few more things nowadays especially with multiple Vcore methods. Either way it's not significantly different--the basics remain the same. Keep testing for stability as you up settings bit by bit.

It might be a bit easier given most people just leave BCLK at 100 and up the multiplier bit by bit now. You'd have way too many combinations back when you were just upping FSB bit by bit. With that said I felt like Bloomfield/Nehalem overclocking was a pain.
In context of what loth was talking about which would have been the days of C2D and C2Q X38 and X48 things are in my opinion much easier than they were back then, these things are a walk in the park even relative to Haswell, far less voltages to play with. Given he has knowledge of those days Kaby Lake should be simple for him once he gets his head around the changes in terminology, the method is relatively the same though smile.gif
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Hello,

I have the same issue with hci and realbench.
i can wake up my computer by unplugging/plugging my display port cable.
Tell me if it works for you.

(long time lurker here, i registered just to reply to you ;D )

I have an old monitor with DVI Port...plugin that of/on does not help...still testing, but its a pain in the back, for every little change I have to leave it running for 2-3h and than try to move the mouse and see if the screen turns on smile.gif
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Im at 1.23-1.24 at 4900, 4700 w avx.



5ghz wont Even post at 1.3.

Did someone try to run 102 or 103 bclk?
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Yes...Also, try the settings posted here : http://www.overclock.net/t/1621347/kaby-lake-overclocking-guide-with-statistics/1870#post_26017093
if you see terminology or terms that you don't find in your bios try to google them and see what they do maybe they are under different name on your board, I highly doubt they were removed entirely....but rather named different.
If its stable that way and works good work from there and lower volts till you are no more stable than raise them back 2 steps ( every step should be 0.05 v).
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I pass every stress test....no whea errors....but when I leave hci running...if I am at the pc and every now and then move the mouse it passes 400% and over with 0 error...If I leave it unattended the screen turns off and it gets stuck there...and nothing works to wake it up...and I have to turn off the psu and start it again.
Cor V or DRAM need to be raised or ? there is no other problem ....boots fast (even cold boot) as I said no errors in any other stress program... just strange.rolleyes.gif
Currently at 1.345 adaptive....1.390 Dram 1.18 vccio 1.2 sa 1.125 pch ( playing with these 3 does not help )
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if you allow the screen to blank or turn off during HCi waking it can take a very long time and multiple attempts. Once you get the "mouse on a blank/black screen, keep at it. It has notrgin to do with the M8I... does the same on all my rigs.
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