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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post


I heard there were a few bad 3600c15 kits, but if you got it running, it;s th ebest bin from GSkill. Should do 3866c15-16-16-38-1T, train at 1.45V, eventual at 1.425V with tight secondaries.
for what help it may be:

Thanks, nice little guideline. Not sure if my kit/rig can pull those numbers, but nice to know it's possible. And 1T, wasn't expecting that thumb.gif
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let's hope the rumors are correct. smile.gif

Can't come soon enough. I want to do some 3D, Ryzen ain't gonna cut it & BW-E I ain't buyin it. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by GnarlyCharlie View Post

Thanks, nice little guideline. Not sure if my kit/rig can pull those numbers, but nice to know it's possible. And 1T, wasn't expecting that thumb.gif

Apart from the Trident Z 3600 C15 kit Jpmboy recommended, the Trident Z 3600 C16 kit is also an excellent kit for overclocking and with good sticks, can go as high as 4133-4200 C12 for benching and also does upto 4266 C19 on the right board, such as the Asrock Z170 MOCF, or the Asus Z170 Impact or the Asus Z270 Apex.
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Apart from the Trident Z 3600 C15 kit Jpmboy recommended, the Trident Z 3600 C16 kit is also an excellent kit for overclocking and with good sticks, can go as high as 4133-4200 C12 for benching and also does upto 4266 C19 on the right board, such as the Asrock Z170 MOCF, or the Asus Z170 Impact or the Asus Z270 Apex.

I have dismal luck with RAM OCing, if I can just get the stuff to run 3600 C15 I'll be stoked. I bet the 3600 C16 kit is cheaper, though.
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Intel might be setting VID individually but I have no clue what they've done (or ASUS). On stock settings RealBench crashes in the first few minutes. I have to raise the voltage manually from auto to make it stable. On the ASUS ROG forums they say this is normal behaviour. Excuse me?!
A true statistical chart would include multiple frequencies with settings for each CPU or batch number so if somebody doesn't want or can't (because of cooling or other limitations) overclock that far, he could pretty much copy the settings and expect a decent stability. That would include every multiplier from stock to max. But that's pretty time consuming so I don't expect anyone to do that.
what has you "befuddled". wait - are you the guy with the bent socket pins?
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Aren't you part of the problem that you have with the current "competition" chart?

You want a "true statistical chart" with "multiple frequencies with settings for each CPU or batch number", but you don't want to post your current overclock results because you want to wait for better cooling and post a better (more competitive) OC? confused.gif
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Straight.
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I don't know the exact terminology and I am not in front of my pc at the moment but my m8i motherboard has an option in bios to use asus algorithm or intel for the vid (or something of that nature, as I said I don't have the exact terminology).. which might be the answer why yours was not working...redface.gif
I suspect you are referring to the Multicore Enhancement, this only affects the per-core max turbo multiplier when the system is used at stock (Auto). Once you overclock and set a multiplier manually, neither the Intel ME or ASus ME are enabled. smile.gif
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Can't come soon enough. I want to do some 3D, Ryzen ain't gonna cut it & BW-E I ain't buyin it. biggrin.gif
yeah.. just don't plug it into something like this: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
(lol - couldn't resist - nice job in the GSkill comp thumb.gif )
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I have dismal luck with RAM OCing, if I can just get the stuff to run 3600 C15 I'll be stoked. I bet the 3600 C16 kit is cheaper, though.
the 3600c16 kit is a good one, and yes. Cheaper. I find the c15s to be a bit more "pliable" with 24/7 settings. tknight is correct tho, the c16s can bench as well. It's a chance thing tho, the c15 I have actually work better at high clocks and voltage than the 4266c19-19-19 kit I have, but nearly identically in the 3600-3866 range. redface.gif
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yeah.. just don't plug it into something like this: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
(lol - couldn't resist - nice job in the GSkill comp thumb.gif )

Hey hey hey.... function over form. Or atleast that's what I keep telling myself when I look at that atrocity. rolleyes.gif

Thanks man. Ran of cold juice. Mem had more freq left in it. I would've made the cut if best of 6 chips wasn't 200Mhz behind others. There's only so much I can make up for. Oh well. drunken.gif
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Aren't you part of the problem that you have with the current "competition" chart?

You want a "true statistical chart" with "multiple frequencies with settings for each CPU or batch number", but you don't want to post your current overclock results because you want to wait for better cooling and post a better (more competitive) OC? confused.gif

I agree, I'm part of the problem. Actually I could send some OC results but only between stock and 4.7 GHz and it wouldn't be complete as my chip should handle more. I can't even go up to 1.25 V without overheating. I don't think that the 4.4-4.7 GHz would be really interesting to anyone as probably any 7700K can reach these overclocks without any issue. My new cooler should arrive until 24th April if Amazon decides to finally ship it... Then I can post a wider range of results.


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what has you "befuddled". wait - are you the guy with the bent socket pins?

Yes I am but the pins have nothing to do with it. Was unstable on stock frequencies right out of the box. The pins were bent after a month of usage during cleaning.
    
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I agree, I'm part of the problem. Actually I could send some OC results but only between stock and 4.7 GHz and it wouldn't be complete as my chip should handle more. I can't even go up to 1.25 V without overheating. I don't think that the 4.4-4.7 GHz would be really interesting to anyone as probably any 7700K can reach these overclocks without any issue. My new cooler should arrive until 24th April if Amazon decides to finally ship it... Then I can post a wider range of results.
Yes I am but the pins have nothing to do with it. Was unstable on stock frequencies right out of the box. The pins were bent after a month of usage during cleaning.
But it would be interesting to someone whom may have the same cooling or similar setup as you currently have in regards to what they might realistically achieve if they purchase a Kaby lake CPU. Not everyone is going to achieve the current average of 5.1ghz. Call me crazy but even if I had got a bad chip I still would have tried to enter the statics chart simply because of its name statistics which means good, bad or plain ugly lol.
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Intel might be setting VID individually but I have no clue what they've done (or ASUS). On stock settings RealBench crashes in the first few minutes. I have to raise the voltage manually from auto to make it stable. On the ASUS ROG forums they say this is normal behaviour. Excuse me?!
I had that stock Vcore problem with one of my CPU, so I did a RMA with Intel and that fixed it.
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Thanks, nice little guideline. Not sure if my kit/rig can pull those numbers, but nice to know it's possible. And 1T, wasn't expecting that thumb.gif
depending on the cpu imc, you should be able to plug and play. The secondaries are set "by the rules". eg, FAW being no less than 4xRDDs, tRAS = CAS + RCD+ RTP (+/-2) etc... if the RTLs don't line up after several training attempts, just set 55/56. 7/7 manually. smile.gif
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