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Originally Posted by Seijitsu View Post

Well, having the top frequencies at the top of the chart doesn't help much in that regard. Maybe sort by core voltage (high->low or low->high) instead?

I kind of agree it would be nice to have maybe a separate chart for quick and easy cinebench runs- could get more people posting.

I guess it's doable. Sorting my alphabetical order would give the least possible incentive but that would make the order of the chart basically nonexistent. 

 

 
Originally Posted by encrypted11 View Post


The good part about cinebench is it takes just a minute or 2 per run.

And as most of us know, these CPUs including Skylake/Kabylake do have a "slow mode" operation (usually undervoltage) where they'd score/perform about 100MHz less than they normally would. Cinebench picks this up in under 2 minutes. (i.e. a 4.9GHz scoring like a 4.8GHz).
The takeaway with such a chart isn't stability, but "Voltage for optimal performance" for keeping track of even chips at the bottom 25 percentile that aren't usually charted imo.

Would be a nice data point to have, for users who can interpret the scores correctly. I think scracy made some good points on the competition issue as well. smile.gif

I'm not sure which scracy post you are referring to, I scroll up quite a bit and didn't find anything. Might have missed something.

 

People who want to submit without hitting the requirements are free to do so and their results will be posted into the second chart which has existed since Skylake, it's just nobody bothers.

   
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I guess it's doable. Sorting my alphabetical order would give the least possible incentive but that would make the order of the chart basically nonexistent. 

I'm not sure which scracy post you are referring to, I scroll up quite a bit and didn't find anything. Might have missed something.

People who want to submit without hitting the requirements are free to do so and their results will be posted into the second chart which has existed since Skylake, it's just nobody bothers.

I for one think you've done a great job with the design and maintenance of the chart as it is. You and I know that no matter how you change it, some people won't be happy. We're starting to get a bit too sensitive these days. The sad thing is that we're teaching all this "non competitive" poop to our kids and following generations. Keep doing what you do @Darkwizzie thumb.gif
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It's up to the users to contribute. If only the top OCs get submitted, then it's a self fulfilling prophecy that the results look like a contest to those less than stellar examples. Good, bad, or ugly, I'll post my results. Put me on the bottom of the heap - it's just a chip, not the scorecard of my life.
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the chart is fine

this isn't about competition but to give others an idea about what to expect from kaby lake
so duds would be good to have in the list as well

but even if not

someone could see easily if they have a good CPU or a bad one by having a look at the chart

this thread is a guide and about realistic 24h OC
it's awesome it's here

if you're not getting a high place in the chart it's nothing personal or about skill
just bad luck in silicon lottery (also info on batch numbers are nice to have)
if you're worried about competition and benching this is not the thread you should be posting in about it

there's not a single entry with ln2, so no one is actually serious about competition here thumb.gif
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Hi there,


havn't been on for ages biggrin.gif
just upgraded and got a new MoBo and a 7700K. Didn't start OC yet. I guess, I will first use the Auto OC from my MoBo to see what the values are to get an idea where I can go.
Board told me if I hit OK, it will go to 4.8 Ghz. I guess I see from there how voltage and everything is to get an idea where to go.

That is so far the untouched result quickly done with XTU. I see a spike at 1.299v @4.5 but it was usually around 1.26v ish. No clue whether thats good or not.
Temps can be ignored for now since I guess the Paste has to cure as well as my H110i GTX is on Quiet Mode plus Smart Fan Mode on the MoBo for the rest, so the fans didnt do anything during the run.

Let's see what will happen thumb.gif



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OK, time to report my overclock:

Username: briank
CPU Model: 7700k
Base Clock: 100
Core Multiplier: 51
Core Frequency: 5100
Cache Frequency: 4500
Vcore in UEFI: 1.4
Vcore: 1.408
FCLK: Reminder: 1000
Cooling Solution: Delidded, Noctua NH-D15
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VCCSA: Auto
Ram Voltage: 1.356
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LLC Setting: 6
Misc Comments: Adaptive voltage. No AVX offset. All C states / Speed Step enabled. SL binned 5.1.

     
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I'm a new user trying to get up to speed on the basics of o/c'ing kaby lake, so please pardon the potentially stupid question:

If Intel sets VID tables in the chip based on the specific chip's performance, would it be useful for the chart on the first post to include a "VID at stock turbo speeds" column? Could that information be used to determine a "better" or "worse" chip before pushing the multipliers?

For example (using fictional numbers), if my i7-7700k requests a VID of 1.190 with all cores at 4.4, but the majority of better overclocking chips in the table have a VID < 1.16, wouldn't that indicate that my chip likely won't get anywhere near 5 GHz at a reasonable voltage?

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I'm a new user trying to get up to speed on the basics of o/c'ing kaby lake, so please pardon the potentially stupid question:

If Intel sets VID tables in the chip based on the specific chip's performance, would it be useful for the chart on the first post to include a "VID at stock turbo speeds" column? Could that information be used to determine a "better" or "worse" chip before pushing the multipliers?

For example (using fictional numbers), if my i7-7700k requests a VID of 1.190 with all cores at 4.4, but the majority of better overclocking chips in the table have a VID < 1.16, wouldn't that indicate that my chip likely won't get anywhere near 5 GHz at a reasonable voltage?

Thanks
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What is your VID at 4.5GHz? Taking about VID is a lost art, we use to do it all the time a long time ago.
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What is your VID at 4.5GHz? Taking about VID is a lost art, we use to do it all the time a long time ago.
Mine, with all cores loaded, not overclocked (which puts them all at 4.4, not 4.5) is 1.17.
    
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Mine, with all cores loaded, not overclocked (which puts them all at 4.4, not 4.5) is 1.17.
Clock it up to 4.5GHz then run Prime 95 stress test, the VID will go that high. VID now works with max turbo clock speed and CPU load variation.smile.gif
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