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how does the ARM chip not even have the signel be past thru it to make macros work. like I'm not totally sure on this but I'm pretty sure its impossible to have macros and have it not go thru the HID interface. you guys just don't want to look at the depth of this because your telling yourself that all these keyboards update at the same speed because it "looks that way" trust me its highly unlikely that's true. if you can prove to me the wirering of the thing is done in a way to stop the keys going thru that processor ill belive you but if your just happy enough saying "its fine" I wont. inquisitive minds are often right.

It interesting that you type these things but in reality, you are contradicting the theory by only focusing on the minuscule aspects that hold almost no value. You are wrong to assume, saying "you guys dont want to..." or "your telling yourself that....", or "trust me..." are just excuses to yourself because you're forcing yourself to believe that having this raw data is actually important.

If you really want to learn about keyboards then (KEYBOARD SCIENCE) is your ticket. I highly recommend you read through the topics.

If you really care so much about this, then look into EK SWITCH HITTER because that can show you actuation times and even if you have keychatter and even within what (ms) range. If you want to read through another common thread where I got this, here is the SOURCE
post #12 of 58
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15ms delay times from chips are bad unless some one can prove otherwise that statement is true flooding information is not helpful I'm asking a pretty specific thing why isn't it investigated. if indeed the key interface doesn't go thru the processor in ALL of these keyboards then its fine and its how you guys seem to assume its like but you have no backup to that theory other than "its fine"... its really not.
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15ms delay times from chips are bad unless some one can prove otherwise that statement is true flooding information is not helpful I'm asking a pretty specific thing why isn't it investigated. if indeed the key interface doesn't go thru the processor in ALL of these keyboards then its fine and its how you guys seem to assume its like but you have no backup to that theory other than "its fine"... its really not.

You asked for a "flood of information" in your first post and now you are complaining about the "flood of information". The "specific thing" you are asking has already been answered but you clearly lack the comprehension to fully understand it. Your "specific thing" involves multiple variables and factors that fall into the range of "placebo". You are virtually asking the question "does 5ms make a difference", but you're fighting the objective part and failing to see the reality. Objectively, you are looking at "5ms is 50% faster than 10ms" when in reality 10ms is .01 second, which then gets eaten up by human latency which is ~200ms and that raw data doesn't hold up in real world scenarios of use.
post #14 of 58
I own a Ducky One TKL with RGB lighting. The people above seem to have left quite a bit of information. If there's any question in specific you'd like answered, ask away.
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post #15 of 58
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is there a way to turn off the numlock and caps lock lights. I plan to run it in a "no light" mode or as much as possible. considering the red or brown switch
post #16 of 58
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you just don't want to know a factor that could effect all these keyboards. and ones you already own. when the japan ms timings of mice was released lots of people changed mouse preference away from multi button mice that needed a extra controller to make these extra buttons work and added huge delays. I'm 99% sure that all these macro keyboards have diferent response times based on controllers I cant see how the controlers can simulate key presses with out getting in the chain of soldering that sends the original ones. but its possible they are soldered on in parallel not series maybe ill look thru my transparent ducky to find out and then finally you guys will start testing for this.
post #17 of 58
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does the plastic feel strong enough on the main body I know with nerf guns the clear plastic generally would make it slightly weaker it has a metal back plate thou just sorta wondering how it feels in the hands.

also I'm considering the pink one but hoping its sorta a redish pink is that sorta correct looks kinda cherry ish. wanting it to match a old Microsoft Windows Optical mice with red tip.
Edited by he4th - 1/26/17 at 8:37am
post #18 of 58
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you just don't want to know a factor that could effect all these keyboards. and ones you already own. when the japan ms timings of mice was released lots of people changed mouse preference away from multi button mice that needed a extra controller to make these extra buttons work and added huge delays. I'm 99% sure that all these macro keyboards have diferent response times based on controllers I cant see how the controlers can simulate key presses with out getting in the chain of soldering that sends the original ones. but its possible they are soldered on in parallel not series maybe ill look thru my transparent ducky to find out and then finally you guys will start testing for this.

It would be intriguing to know, but the realistic view of it is that it doesn't matter as much as it would to mice. Mice need to be as precise as possible, thats the nature of how they work. A real-time graphic that your eyes are constantly scanning for. Input device none-the-less but its use and operations are different that that of a keyboard. This factor within a keyboard is far less important than within a mouse. Controllers are important within a keyboard, but they are much more commonly viewed as points of potential failure. That is why most enthusiasts within the keyboard community steer clear of keyboards with many added macro buttons, volume sliders, or "added features" and not because it "slows down" the keyboard.

Objectively they do, but realistically it's such small amounts it does not play part in the whole picture. If this were the case, everyone and their mom would use MX Speeds because objectively they are the "fastest" switch when realistically they are more of a gimmick OR only desired by very few. The linear feel to these switches would be the important factor, and due to this single factor alone many people will not use them. Keyboards involve way more subjectivity for them to be "good" and can't just be looked at whats inside them to determine if they are good or not. A commonly used interface should not be graded by its raw power but rather how it applies to your specific use.
post #19 of 58
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lots of people changed mouse preference away from multi button mice that needed a extra controller to make these extra buttons work and added huge delays.

This never happened. If it somehow did, it wasn't because of that reason.
post #20 of 58
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well if there isn't any information on the benchmarks I want I guess ill just have to accept Duckys claim of 1ms response time on processor to be truthful and not just a reference to the polling rate but the actual response time of the entire device. so ill do what you and many fans did to mice in the dark ages of mice releases in the mid 2000s and just say "its fine" but I still want that data and if any one on here knows of it or is planning to start testing for it I encourage them and they shouldn't be discouraged by this "it doesn't matter its about look and feel" talk that isn't constructive

its ok to love your keyboard choice but some people out there just want to know more facts about how they compare than "who cares"
Edited by he4th - 1/27/17 at 2:07am
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