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35 is missing quite a bit of screen area vs. a 38" display.
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Is that HP HDR? Samsung panel? Looks interesting. Not quite enough of leap to ditch my X34 though, could be worth it if it has HDR, but there is such a small amount of PC games supporting HDR. I don't understand why some of the cross-platfrom games that get HDR treatment on PSPro, but not PC!
I would love to get some HDR love. My PC is connected to my HDR tv.
I am really hooked on HDR and am really considering getting a PSPro just for that. It can only be a matter of times before more PC titles support it though, I hope!
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OK... what is everyones opinion on Curved monitors. I think the consept is kinda dumb, but I have never used one. I have my 3 monitor setup that i am happy with, does they really offer much?

Answer me this: are your 3 monitors all set up so they face precisely the same way? Forming one plane? Or do you have a relative angle between them? That's basically the same purpose as the gentle curve.

I have one of the earlier 3440x1440 (2800R?) Acers (xr341ck) and I actually wish it was a bit more so. Admit I'm tempted by the new releases but upgrading this fast is just silly.

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I'm not sold on Vega. There's only so many AMD Bucks to go around and from everything we've seen of these two, Zen seems to definitely be the real deal. Given that, Vega will probably end up the red-headed step child of the two.

Combine that with the fact that Intel doesn't seem to have anything special lined up and Nvidia, thanks to Pascal, essentially gave themselves extra time to further improve Volta and all signs point to Zen CPU w/ Volta GPU unfortunately.

I'll be going Vega. Even if it's not the "fastest and best"....I think you get a little better bang for the buck than with nVidia, and it will be a valid step up from my current Fury (obviously Polaris was a nothingburger for me).
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Seems kinda.....late considering HP has its own 35 inch ultrawide coming out next month that has wayyy better specs, like being 100hz, quantam dot and g sync. Stand doesnt look as gaudy either:

QLvprBQA6trJUjkDgSgwwe-650-80.jpg


Where do you see that has Quantum Dot? I thought it was based on an AU Opt panel which is AMVA.... QD is Samsung's thing ?? Stand design doesn't bother me one way or the other since I'm on an arm anyway; long as it has VESA support I'm happy.

Image below was before I tidied up all the HOTAS wiring under my keyboard armature. Those subpanels fold down out of the way when not in use, too. Desk is setup for standing but might get a good pilot-type chair on a raised shaft, 'drafting table' style, and rig up pedals as well. Haven't decided if I want to go that crazy. (Lie - I want to, just haven't decided if I'll give in to wanting it....)

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Nice setup.

I ordered a mechanical lift desk to allow me a transition between sit and stand to alleviate back discomfort.

Which monitor arm is that?
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http://www.www8-hp.com/us/en/images/OMEN_X_35_Display_Datasheet_tcm245_2386955_tcm245_2385012_tcm245-2386955.pdf

Is that the monitor you guys are talking about? It doesn't look any better than the x34 to me, if it's even as good.
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Nice setup.

I ordered a mechanical lift desk to allow me a transition between sit and stand to alleviate back discomfort.

Which monitor arm is that?

Thank you!

I built the desk to be a nice in-between height, it looks a little tall/massive for sitting at, but the keyboard arm has a lot of height range to get into the right position for seating. Wood is all either Pecan or Mesquite (I'm in TX), and the desk is assembled with "Simplified Building" aluminum pipe and joints for the most part. I really find my legs/feet get somewhat fatigued from standing all the time, but I prefer it over sitting at the moment and almost never drag over the desk chair and switch back. Why I'm now considering a taller type chair as my transition option...might swap between sit-stand but keep all the hardware at the same height.

The monitor arm is a Cotytech, this one, and I did get the extended pole height: http://www.cotytech.com/content-product_info/product_id-2346/expandable_desk_mount_spring_arm_silver.html The arm comes as a thru-desk-hole ("grommet") or clamp mount, and I built the desk with a hole in mind.

Since the monitor arm is spring-supported, I can maneuver it from the position shown to a good position for seated use just by grabbing and pulling (at least for elevation, distance, and rotation...'tilt' is a little more difficult because you have to wrench the friction down pretty hard on the ball head to prevent it drooping under the weight of a big monitor like this. The elevation control spring is tension-adjustable but the ball-head is just friction.) I do think it would all support the 38" variants of these monitors as well...but as I said that's lust not sense talking. Upgrading right now is too soon and will get me in trouble with SWMBO.

The keyboard tray hardware I'm using is a Werner-Knapp "Cobra" mechanism by the way. I think a total of about 12" of vertical range between 'sitting' and 'standing' deployment? Plus standing I can have the whole KB tray tilted slightly away from me (down at the top) for even more wrist strain removal, another reason I wanted the hinge at the HOTAS subpanels so they could remain level in that case.

Sidebar since this thread is supposed to be about 21:9 monitors not standing desks, but I do recommend a nice standing mat as well, with some reservations. The good side is they protect any carpet from getting obvious foot depressions and wear marks. The downside is if you have flat feet at all like me, the foam actually HURTS after a while because it distributes pressure all around your bottom of the foot vs. having it mostly on the heelbone and ball of the foot. My feet start to go almost tingly/numb. Counterintuitive, I know. I have to wear shoes with the standing mat or its worse than not having one at all, but going to a thinner mat wouldn't provide any carpet protection.
Edited by rtrski - 2/10/17 at 8:39am
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Originally Posted by bigjdubb View Post

http://www.www8-hp.com/us/en/images/OMEN_X_35_Display_Datasheet_tcm245_2386955_tcm245_2385012_tcm245-2386955.pdf

Is that the monitor you guys are talking about? It doesn't look any better than the x34 to me, if it's even as good.

I think so....I didn't think it was QD, or > 3440:1440 rez either. I think the articles mistakenly putting the OP monitor at 3440x1400 or 1600 instead of showing the correct full rez are confusing people that the new HP, while nice, is really that equivalent.

From the spec sheet looks like they also got rid of one of the really good selling features of the older HP 34" Envy, IMO...it used to have TWO upstream USBs, so you could effectively use the monitor itself as a "KVM" between 2 computers. There's just no such thing as a KVM now in this rez capability (or wasn't last time I looked).
post #38 of 41
Dunno why you guys are comparing this to the HP Omen, isn't that a different class of monitor?

Well, I ordered one of these to replace the Samsung CF791 I tried out first. First impressions are really good, but do not include any gaming tests right now as I'm simply powering it off a stock Pentium G3258 IGP. Yes, it appears to be capable of the full 3840x1600 resolution, though of course the refresh rate drops to 30 Hz. For my purposes, that's totally fine right now since this primarily a work monitor, with some gaming on the side once a few parts come in.

I'm also not nearly as picky as a lot of guys are here, but here are my impressions versus the Samsung CF791.

1. While both monitors contain a lot of plastic, the Acer feels a lot more solid and has a rough texture to it. The Samsung is a high gloss white that feels a little on the thin side.

2. The stand on the Acer is metal with plastic bits thrown in, while the Samsung is clad completely in plastic. The Acer stand is much more solid, which is pretty obvious when you look at the design of it. The only nice thing about that Samsung stand is it hides any wires you need to run, while the Acer cannot. As a side note, I am of the opinion that any monitor that costs upwards of $1,000 can afford to have actual metal freaking accents instead of plastic look-a-likes. The Samsung base is a ripe example of this, and frankly I find it incredibly irritating. If that thing was a solid chunk of stainless steel it would have looked far nicer and helped ensure the base was steady.

3. I have a large, heavy hardwood desk, 6 feet wide by 30 inches deep. I like having a lot of surface area to distribute various reports and such while I work, so in general I shove my monitors back as far as possible. The stand on the Acer is much deeper than that on the Samsung, so not only is the screen larger, it is also notably closer to me. I'm still split on that. If anyone made a suitable replacement VESA stand that didn't require ruining my desk I would consider going that route, but I'll probably just live with the stock stand. Personally, I wouldn't put this on a desk any shallower than mine, unless you like sitting uncomfortably close to the screen.

4. The Displayport never worked on my Samsung, which was the primary reason I started looking for a replacement. Works fine on the Acer.

5. The OSD is much faster on the Acer and the monitor comes out of sleep much faster.

6. I see less variation in color on the Acer than i did on the Samsung. Since I work on a lot of reports I generally have a lot of very white documents open at once, so it's pretty noticeable if it's there. It was somewhat of a distraction on the CF791.

7. The extra real estate is really nice for what I do.

8. Neither monitor came with dead pixels, which I appreciate!

9. The curve is more subtle on the Acer, which I think I prefer over the Samsung. Mind you, I really didn't have a problem with the curve on the Samsung either.

10. I had no idea the Acer came with under-monitor lighting. It's also fairly subtle, and can easily be changed or shut off. I generally leave it on white, which leads to my next point...

11. My desk lamp really didn't fit well with the Samsung CF791, but it doesn't fit on my desk at all with the 38" Acer. I mean, it fits, but the arm mechanism can't be positioned at an optimal point. The under-monitor lighting kind of helps make up for that. Sort of. Not really.

12. The Acer is notably heavier than the Samsung. Picking up the monitor is easy enough as the metal frame forms a nice handle on top, so that was nice. I'd definitely place it on a solid desk, but if you're willing to drop this much on a monitor you have probably already done that.

13. I just spelled 'done' "odne", am I having a stroke?

14. Also, the box was physically too wide for me to (safely) carry up the stairs without some assistance, whereas I could pick up the CF791 without an issue. I'm 5'10", so take that as you will. I didn't want to risk dropping the thing so I enlisted some help.

15. The speakers on both monitors are pitiful. Most probably don't care about that (or at least aren't surprised by that), however as these monitors are getting bigger it's harder to justify the space on my desk for speakers. I also say this because the speakers on my wife's 5K iMac are surprisingly tolerable. When all I really care about is some ambient noise while working I don't need anything special, and I'd prefer to save the space on my desk. From the audiophile perspective, the Acer sticks out far enough it would undoubtedly have an effect on imaging from good speakers unless you also bring them out pretty far (or have a wide enough desk). In my case, if I put speakers as wide as possible it'll probably be fine. Another possibility I have considered is making some horizontal speakers that could fit under the monitor. Again, not great for imaging, but perhaps a nice balance between quality and conservation of desk space. I'll have to think on it.

All in all, I'm really pleased with the Acer so far and look forward to running some games on it. In a few weeks I will at least have an RX480 (and an i7), so I can try some stuff out then, if anyone is interested. Again, I'm not particularly anal about monitors, but if they have obvious defects (a la the CF791 and it's faulty DP) then I won't put up with it. So far, I haven't seen anything like that on the XR382CQK.

Guess I'll just need to make my own VESA mount...then a matching desk, once I finish the one for my wife. I suppose for a better low-fi (low mid-fi?) solution to the ambient noise problem would be to tack on some small full range drivers to a DIY monitor mount.

Crap, I just spelled 'for' "ofr", I'm DEFINITELY having a stroke.

*sigh*
Edited by technodanvan - 2/14/17 at 6:11pm
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I had an opportunity to test this monitor out. I love the 3840 by 1600 resolution. The 75 Hertz ability at 10 bit color is real nice. But the panel resolved an MPRT of only 14 milliseconds motion clarity. Very slow IPS panel unfortunately.
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Dunno why you guys are comparing this to the HP Omen, isn't that a different class of monitor?

Well, I ordered one of these to replace the Samsung CF791 I tried out first. First impressions are really good, but do not include any gaming tests right now as I'm simply powering it off a stock Pentium G3258 IGP. Yes, it appears to be capable of the full 3840x1600 resolution, though of course the refresh rate drops to 30 Hz. For my purposes, that's totally fine right now since this primarily a work monitor, with some gaming on the side once a few parts come in.

I'm also not nearly as picky as a lot of guys are here, but here are my impressions versus the Samsung CF791.

1. While both monitors contain a lot of plastic, the Acer feels a lot more solid and has a rough texture to it. The Samsung is a high gloss white that feels a little on the thin side.

2. The stand on the Acer is metal with plastic bits thrown in, while the Samsung is clad completely in plastic. The Acer stand is much more solid, which is pretty obvious when you look at the design of it. The only nice thing about that Samsung stand is it hides any wires you need to run, while the Acer cannot. As a side note, I am of the opinion that any monitor that costs upwards of $1,000 can afford to have actual metal freaking accents instead of plastic look-a-likes. The Samsung base is a ripe example of this, and frankly I find it incredibly irritating. If that thing was a solid chunk of stainless steel it would have looked far nicer and helped ensure the base was steady.

3. I have a large, heavy hardwood desk, 6 feet wide by 30 inches deep. I like having a lot of surface area to distribute various reports and such while I work, so in general I shove my monitors back as far as possible. The stand on the Acer is much deeper than that on the Samsung, so not only is the screen larger, it is also notably closer to me. I'm still split on that. If anyone made a suitable replacement VESA stand that didn't require ruining my desk I would consider going that route, but I'll probably just live with the stock stand. Personally, I wouldn't put this on a desk any shallower than mine, unless you like sitting uncomfortably close to the screen.

4. The Displayport never worked on my Samsung, which was the primary reason I started looking for a replacement. Works fine on the Acer.

5. The OSD is much faster on the Acer and the monitor comes out of sleep much faster.

6. I see less variation in color on the Acer than i did on the Samsung. Since I work on a lot of reports I generally have a lot of very white documents open at once, so it's pretty noticeable if it's there. It was somewhat of a distraction on the CF791.

7. The extra real estate is really nice for what I do.

8. Neither monitor came with dead pixels, which I appreciate!

9. The curve is more subtle on the Acer, which I think I prefer over the Samsung. Mind you, I really didn't have a problem with the curve on the Samsung either.

10. I had no idea the Acer came with under-monitor lighting. It's also fairly subtle, and can easily be changed or shut off. I generally leave it on white, which leads to my next point...

11. My desk lamp really didn't fit well with the Samsung CF791, but it doesn't fit on my desk at all with the 38" Acer. I mean, it fits, but the arm mechanism can't be positioned at an optimal point. The under-monitor lighting kind of helps make up for that. Sort of. Not really.

12. The Acer is notably heavier than the Samsung. Picking up the monitor is easy enough as the metal frame forms a nice handle on top, so that was nice. I'd definitely place it on a solid desk, but if you're willing to drop this much on a monitor you have probably already done that.

13. I just spelled 'done' "odne", am I having a stroke?

14. Also, the box was physically too wide for me to (safely) carry up the stairs without some assistance, whereas I could pick up the CF791 without an issue. I'm 5'10", so take that as you will. I didn't want to risk dropping the thing so I enlisted some help.

15. The speakers on both monitors are pitiful. Most probably don't care about that (or at least aren't surprised by that), however as these monitors are getting bigger it's harder to justify the space on my desk for speakers. I also say this because the speakers on my wife's 5K iMac are surprisingly tolerable. When all I really care about is some ambient noise while working I don't need anything special, and I'd prefer to save the space on my desk. From the audiophile perspective, the Acer sticks out far enough it would undoubtedly have an effect on imaging from good speakers unless you also bring them out pretty far (or have a wide enough desk). In my case, if I put speakers as wide as possible it'll probably be fine. Another possibility I have considered is making some horizontal speakers that could fit under the monitor. Again, not great for imaging, but perhaps a nice balance between quality and conservation of desk space. I'll have to think on it.

All in all, I'm really pleased with the Acer so far and look forward to running some games on it. In a few weeks I will at least have an RX480 (and an i7), so I can try some stuff out then, if anyone is interested. Again, I'm not particularly anal about monitors, but if they have obvious defects (a la the CF791 and it's faulty DP) then I won't put up with it. So far, I haven't seen anything like that on the XR382CQK.

Guess I'll just need to make my own VESA mount...then a matching desk, once I finish the one for my wife. I suppose for a better low-fi (low mid-fi?) solution to the ambient noise problem would be to tack on some small full range drivers to a DIY monitor mount.

Crap, I just spelled 'for' "ofr", I'm DEFINITELY having a stroke.

*sigh*

Could you please measure the stand itself from front to back? My desk is 28" deep so that's the only thing holding me back from ordering this vs. the 38UC99 (stand is 3 inches shorter).
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