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Desperate ??
are U crazy or what??

I'm not at all and don't be offensive with people you don't even know, be respectful.

I have tried many other 34" inches and all gone back to Amazon because I was not satisfied with all the problems that they had, and if Omen will not satisfy me it will go right the same way back as the others done before, so don't judge other people before you don't even know what they do Or what they have done before, with monitor experience.

I'm 40 years old and I have a computer repair company in Rome, and i repair computer since the spectrum for at least 25 years now ,'so what do you think u are talking with ? a little puppy kiddy or what?

U messed with the wrong guy.

Whoa whoa calm down! Lol! I'm commenting about how you've been following this thread from the start, and you have heard a ton of people complain about the flickering and viewing angles, and HP said they don't think they have a fix...and then find a single video review from a no-name reviewer who likes it and you typed "This monitor is AWESOME!" and you decided to order it, lol. Not being mean, just pointing out that you seem to be grabbing onto ANY positive commentary about the product to justify getting it. smile.gif
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lswbtAcFi9w

Very nice Review FOUND!!!!

This Monitor is AWESOME!!!!!!

On Tuesday finally the pain for waiting will end

great job Lims Cave

Edited by Notwist - 4/17/17 at 9:22am
post #492 of 705
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lswbtAcFi9w

Very nice Review FOUND!!!!

I agree with most of this review. Pretty spot on.

I spent a lot of time this weekend playing BF1 on this beast and it is pretty amazing. No trouble running it at a consistent 100 frames with my 1080 once I turned down the post processing and set lighting to high from ultra. I have had zero problems with this monitor in-game(probably 30 hours of gaming). It still flickers on almost every game menu screen I have tried, but that doesn't bother me at all. I am happy with my purchase so far and will keep this monitor until a 1440p, ultrawide, IPS, 144hz monitor comes out and there is a single card gpu solution that can push new games at that resolution at a consistent 144 frames.
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I just want to be sure: first, are other people on this screen having similar pixel inversion like I posted above?

Also, now that I know what it's called...is pixel inversion something flawed/going to cause problems?

https://imgur.com/gallery/Kvv2R
Unrelated to pixel inversion my blur test looks great.
I've also calibrated the screen, get dark black and amazing colors.
No blacklight bleed or ips glow is also amazing.

I've seen flickering menus/loading, it doesn't bother me there. Only game I've seen it is mass effect andromeda. Which makes me hope that can be patched.

Otherwise, aside from the pixel inversion issue I see the screen is absolutely amazing. I have sli 1080's if they were capable of 100hz+ 4k I'd go that route but they are not. 4k isn't ready. And the "perfect" screen really doesn't exist. The current market isn't about picking the best screen rather it's about picking the screen with whatever problem you accept over a different screen. At least for us g-sync people. Freesync has lots of much better monitor choices. I'm jealous. Love nvidia gpu's but seriously, f--- you nvidia. Making getting a good monitor to game on incredibly limited and difficult.
post #494 of 705
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Whoa whoa calm down! Lol! I'm commenting about how you've been following this thread from the start, and you have heard a ton of people complain about the flickering and viewing angles, and HP said they don't think they have a fix...and then find a single video review from a no-name reviewer who likes it and you typed "This monitor is AWESOME!" and you decided to order it, lol. Not being mean, just pointing out that you seem to be grabbing onto ANY positive commentary about the product to justify getting it. smile.gif

I ordered the monitor the 22 of March...and all the complains of the people don't justify for me not to see with my eyes this monitor first, as I have done with PG348Q X34A XB271HU, Flickering in loading screens is not a problem for me, I'm not hardcore first person gamer so even if the pannel is not super fast it's for me not so problematic I dislike much more the worse contrast of ips and BLB. I'm talking about something I've seen with my eyes so that's exactly what I'm going to do tomorrow, test everything by myself.

And by the way the video review is very well made, even if it's not made by super famous youtuber, that's a fact the review is very complete shows every problem on this monitor and shows although a lot of real life content.
Edited by pakal77 - 4/17/17 at 1:02pm
post #495 of 705
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I just want to be sure: first, are other people on this screen having similar pixel inversion like I posted above?

Also, now that I know what it's called...is pixel inversion something flawed/going to cause problems?

https://imgur.com/gallery/Kvv2R
Unrelated to pixel inversion my blur test looks great.
I've also calibrated the screen, get dark black and amazing colors.
No blacklight bleed or ips glow is also amazing.

I've seen flickering menus/loading, it doesn't bother me there. Only game I've seen it is mass effect andromeda. Which makes me hope that can be patched.

Otherwise, aside from the pixel inversion issue I see the screen is absolutely amazing. I have sli 1080's if they were capable of 100hz+ 4k I'd go that route but they are not. 4k isn't ready. And the "perfect" screen really doesn't exist. The current market isn't about picking the best screen rather it's about picking the screen with whatever problem you accept over a different screen. At least for us g-sync people. Freesync has lots of much better monitor choices. I'm jealous. Love nvidia gpu's but seriously, f--- you nvidia. Making getting a good monitor to game on incredibly limited and difficult.

But if you are spending $1k+, there shouldn't be a compromise, especially if it is a quality issue. Now if it is 1440p vs 4k, yeah that's a trade off.
But I've read nothing but problems with these ultrawides. They are rushing them to the market and the quality is definitely suffering.

Surprising how many people try to justify the purchase by saying they don't mind this or that. They are flaws, you shouldn't have flaws at this price point.
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post #496 of 705
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But if you are spending $1k+, there shouldn't be a compromise, especially if it is a quality issue. Now if it is 1440p vs 4k, yeah that's a trade off.
But I've read nothing but problems with these ultrawides. They are rushing them to the market and the quality is definitely suffering.

Surprising how many people try to justify the purchase by saying they don't mind this or that. They are flaws, you shouldn't have flaws at this price point.


Exactly this... I wanted every reason to keep this monitor, because I absolutely loved the design, curve, build, size, etc. It was so awesome looking and immersive. However, having it side by side with the x34...just couldn't justify keeping it. I have never seen so many people finding any reason to justify their purchase. The x35 has too many issues, and HARDWARE limitations that make it impossible to swallow the asking price..
post #497 of 705
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Originally Posted by Tylermon View Post

Hi everyone, Recently I purchased the omen x 35 with the recent sale. I want to say I love it...so many good things about it. HOWEVER...doing a mandatory dead pixel check with a new screen...I found what might be a MAJOR issue.

http://www.checkpixels.com/
Above is a link that made me notice this.... issue?
and a video of my issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q1UhAHLRmU
When the browser is opened...windowed. and a color displayed from that website...it changes the color of the entire screen going across where the color in the browser is.
Like...something is definitely broken or not correct. I think. I really need some thoughts/opinions on this. What is happening? Is this a problem(well im thinking it very well could be) but is my panel defective? Or this happening to everyone.

rcvd an asnwer for your problem description
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Ok, first I thought he just have a red Image, but this is something like the "Pixel Inversion" test with a red color (to find faster dead pixels). On my model I also get these "strips" which I can see a bit less then on the Video of the other guy. Nevertheless, it's shure an issue, but in my opinion.... If im honest, not really something to worry about. I can record for you some smearing videos, which you would be more shocked then this strange strips. I mean, when you get content where you really can see this? In this case, the overdrive lag is a more real issue for example, even this is not really a big issue in games. But I still hope they will fix this.

Of course again, personal preference how effective someone can see different issues and of course we pay 1100+€ for a monitor like this and we wan't the best out of it. So i also can understand that people are disappointed.

I really don't want to defend this monitor or hp, but if you searching for issues within test images, you will find "test image issues" on nearly every screen. Thats what I think.... smile.gif

Here we go: https://limscave.de/media/hpomenx35/Fra ... /pixel.mp4

Edit 2:

Tested this on my TN Panel and that issue also is here. The only one difference is, you cannot see this "stips" as good as on the omen. Maybe this is because of the Viewing Angle "glossy" thing, or maybe cause of the higher resolution, or even because of the VA technology in general, im not shure. But just wanted let you know.
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But if you are spending $1k+, there shouldn't be a compromise, especially if it is a quality issue. Now if it is 1440p vs 4k, yeah that's a trade off.
But I've read nothing but problems with these ultrawides. They are rushing them to the market and the quality is definitely suffering.

Surprising how many people try to justify the purchase by saying they don't mind this or that. They are flaws, you shouldn't have flaws at this price point.

Correct, I agree at this cost there should be no compromise however, reality is there are limited options and all are flawed in one way or another. There isn't anything I or anyone else buying a screen can do about it.

4k and standard 1440p are no better in this regards. Their panels have the exact same flaws. Back light bleed. Ips glow. Horrible color reproduction. Bad contrast. Dead pixels. You name it, no screen is immune.

That said, if none of us sacrifice and purchase the screens they won't make them and won't improve them. ultrawides are on par with non ultrawide with screen quality but get the bonus of being ultrawide.

Look at VR as well. It needs better resolution and has compromised many things as well. If no one bought into it, it wouldn't be here today and won't improve and change as quickly as it currently is.

So yes, buying a computer screen is all about compromise. Even at $1000+ price ranges. just like cars are the same way, and houses and everything else one can buy.

To pretend that isn't how any market works is plain foolish.
post #499 of 705
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Correct, I agree at this cost there should be no compromise however, reality is there are limited options and all are flawed in one way or another. There isn't anything I or anyone else buying a screen can do about it.

4k and standard 1440p are no better in this regards. Their panels have the exact same flaws. Back light bleed. Ips glow. Horrible color reproduction. Bad contrast. Dead pixels. You name it, no screen is immune.

That said, if none of us sacrifice and purchase the screens they won't make them and won't improve them. ultrawides are on par with non ultrawide with screen quality but get the bonus of being ultrawide.

Look at VR as well. It needs better resolution and has compromised many things as well. If no one bought into it, it wouldn't be here today and won't improve and change as quickly as it currently is.

So yes, buying a computer screen is all about compromise. Even at $1000+ price ranges. just like cars are the same way, and houses and everything else one can buy.

To pretend that isn't how any market works is plain foolish.

Yea I don't fully agree with this. You don't buy a product because you believe the next one should be better. Compromises don't need to include outright flaws: flickering, color banding, below average viewing angle. The market doesn't buy VR headsets thinking the resolution is awful but they want the next headset to be better so they will sacrifice for this one, lol. They buy it because it's a legit good product today.

If the Omen didn't have the flickering issue I might still have it, but between the flickering, the viewing angles, the color banding, the warranty, and the price, it's just TOO many compromises.

And I have no clue why everybody forgets that the other options include 1) Acer X34P or ROG equivalent, which got a higher review from TFTcentral, or 2) purchasing a non-GSync display like that Samsung and eventually switching to an AMD, or 3) just WAITING a few months because Samsung already announced GSync panels for 2017 and Acer has the X34P in the pipeline.
post #500 of 705
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Exactly this... I wanted every reason to keep this monitor, because I absolutely loved the design, curve, build, size, etc. It was so awesome looking and immersive. However, having it side by side with the x34...just couldn't justify keeping it. I have never seen so many people finding any reason to justify their purchase. The x35 has too many issues, and HARDWARE limitations that make it impossible to swallow the asking price..

That's EXACTLY my surprise with this. There are so many posts writing off some of these problems as "oh that's just how VA panels are!" (regarding viewing angles) or "oh that's just how GSync works!" (regarding flickering), but that's just not true, lol. Myself and others have clearly posted that the flickering is not on some other GSync displays, and that the viewing angles are a step back from other VA panels (TFTCentral even stated this).

I kinda get why this happens: you build up a product in your head and you want to believe the product in your head is the product that exists, but sometimes that's not the case.

If you are ok with flickering, a 1 year warranty, and don't care about color consistency across the full range of the panel (due to saturation loss) then Omen is a great looking ultrawide. I do care enough about those things that I'm willing to wait and save my $1300 until a bit later, whether that's until HP fixes some of these things, or a competing product comes out. And I really do hope that HP comes through with a fix for the flickering making everybody who got the Omen happy they stuck with it smile.gif
Edited by Notwist - 4/17/17 at 2:25pm
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