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Hi,

I'm posting this here as I was asking about the AMD 9590 - I suppose it is applicable to any platform Intel or AMD but 9590 is decidedly AMD and when I get the letters mixed up on the QWERTY keyboard I spell it MAD 9590 then I have to correct it but this time it stays because every thing I've learned about the 9590 is MAD - OK

There is a lot of lingo used here on the forum and abbreviations used inter-changeably by the power users who just know their stuff and it all runs off the tongue and an entire conversation takes place with just abbreviative letters - or that's how it can seem.

CLC - Is this "cheap liquid cooler" or closed loop cooler?

AIO is an all in one for liquid cooling such as Corsair H100i or Cooler Master Master Liquid Pro 280mm

Then there are CLC's - cheap liquid coolers.

Are CLC's the same as AIO's?

I've installed a Phanteks PH-TC14-PE which is a good air cooler - I've got a Coolermaster Nepton 140 XL which is a good-ish AIO but will not be used on 9590.

Any how back to the differences between CLC's and AIO's - It's time to learn a bit more of what the power users know all too well - bike.gif
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CLC = Closed Loop Cooler

AIO = All In One.
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CLC = it is a closed loop - meaning no changing of tubing, res, pump, block etc. Things like the Corsair H100 are examples of these

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181103&cm_re=corsair_h100i-_-35-181-103-_-Product

AIO = All in one - meaning you can change things like tubing, fittings, etc... but it comes all in one assembled together. Swifttech h320 is an example of these.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835108219
     
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Originally Posted by billbartuska View Post

CLC = Closed Loop Cooler

AIO = All In One.

Just to add to that, AIO examples are EK-XLC Predator 240 and their kits. EK, Alphacool and XSPC sells their own kits aswell. Basically expandable liquid cooling with removable components.

CLC examples are the ones OP stated. Corsair 100i, NZXT x41, Cooler Master Master Liquid Pro 280mm and such. Not meant to be expanded beyond its loop.
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OK I get the picture of how you folks here view the AIO's and CLC's

I think maybe some of the manufacturers may refer to their coolers as AIO when they are not expandable so are closed loop but may refer to them as AIO.

People here view AIO as expandable because the hoses can be replaced etc.... and the system can be added to. All liquid coolers I've looked at so far to buy are closed loop and not expandable so are CLC - Does not mean these are bad

Swift tech I have heard of as well as EK but this is a step up from the CLC's

I think I mis-understood CLC to mean = cheap liquid cooler - not so - closed loop cooler - OK evo.gif
post #6 of 11
Both are kind of not worth it IMO... I've owned both types and just went back to air in the end...

Good Air Coolers can perform just as well if not better than CLC and produce less noise.

AIO are a bit better than CLC, but are still inferior to custom loops in terms of performance. They are also very expensive.
     
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OK I get the picture of how you folks here view the AIO's and CLC's

I think maybe some of the manufacturers may refer to their coolers as AIO when they are not expandable so are closed loop but may refer to them as AIO.

People here view AIO as expandable because the hoses can be replaced etc.... and the system can be added to. All liquid coolers I've looked at so far to buy are closed loop and not expandable so are CLC - Does not mean these are bad

Swift tech I have heard of as well as EK but this is a step up from the CLC's

I think I mis-understood CLC to mean = cheap liquid cooler - not so - closed loop cooler - OK evo.gif

While you misunderstood, you're really not that wrong. CLC's are basically cheap liquid coolers. They're all using cheap aluminium radiators, and dinky pumps. They're all pretty terrible.

For CPU only AIO's, I could recommend the be quiet! silent loops. They're excellent, but the pump is a bit to weak to add anything more than maybe a low restriction radiator. You'll need an extra pump if you ever want to expand it. And you can't really get them everywhere either.

For true expandable AIO, you have the ones from Swiftech (HX2-series) and EK (Predator-series). But the Swiftechs while very good, have some QC issues and the EK Predators had some growing pains and are now discontinued ( soon to be replaced by the new and improved MLC-series).
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Aren't they all "closed" loops? The fittings are completely sealed and water can't enter/exit unless broken.
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Aren't they all "closed" loops? The fittings are completely sealed and water can't enter/exit unless broken.

Doesn't closed loop mean that it cannot be expanded? - What you see is what you get - Cannot replace hoses etc....
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Aren't they all "closed" loops? The fittings are completely sealed and water can't enter/exit unless broken.

No. With the Swifttech I linked, you can swap out fittings, hoses, liquid, you can even attach it to a GPU block and have it cool a GPU. That is an AIO


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Doesn't closed loop mean that it cannot be expanded? - What you see is what you get - Cannot replace hoses etc....

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