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So, i just bought some bx5s to connect to my xonar stx. the ts to rca cables i bought carry a lot of buzzing and noise, especially when scrolling my mouse wheel or w/e. this has always been a problem with my stx when it comes to using the mic on it too. i also have a mackie blackjack usb interface (it would also be nice to have the volume knob to adjust it, as i like to keep my windows volume where it is at), so i was now going to get something to plug it into the monitor outs on that instead. only thing i am not sure about is if i need stereo capable or mono cables. surely you would want the left side output only transmitting a single channel signal of the left sound to go to the left monitor? and a mono signal carrying only the right side signal to the right monitor. but everywhere i look it says to use a balanced trs. wouldnt it create an odd sound if each monitor is playing both left and right audio? I am completely new to this kind of stuff, so i am 70% certain all i have just said is completely wrong. Please enlighten me!
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For fixing the noise issue with the STX.
Did you disable the motherboard's on-board audio, in the BIOS, when you installed the STX card?
Move the STX card to a different PCI-E slot?
And try the Unified Xonar Drivers?
http://maxedtech.com/asus-xonar-unified-drivers/

As your using the more common un-balanced output from the source device (Essence STX), you want to use 1/4" mono ST plugs.
Unless you switched over to a source with a balanced output, you would not want to use 1/4" stereo TRS plugs.

It does seem the Mackie Onyx USB interface does come with a balanced 1/4" output jacks.
So a 1/4" stereo TRS plug to 1/4" stereo TRS plug cable would work, with connecting the Onyx to the studio monitors.
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For fixing the noise issue with the STX.
Did you disable the motherboard's on-board audio, in the BIOS, when you installed the STX card?
Move the STX card to a different PCI-E slot?
And try the Unified Xonar Drivers?
http://maxedtech.com/asus-xonar-unified-drivers/

As your using the more common un-balanced output from the source device (Essence STX), you want to use 1/4" mono ST plugs.
Unless you switched over to a source with a balanced output, you would not want to use 1/4" stereo TRS plugs.

It does seem the Mackie Onyx USB interface does come with a balanced 1/4" output jacks.
So a 1/4" stereo TRS plug to 1/4" stereo TRS plug cable would work, with connecting the Onyx to the studio monitors.

Yes, Yes, Yes. for the stx, i am aware of the cause, i just cannot fix it. its EMI from my graphics card. i have a bit of coil whine on my titan x, the louder that gets, the louder the noise is if i am using a mic from the card.
For switching over to the mackie (which i think i would prefer, i dont use speakers much, and the difference in sound for me using my 598 and 598 cs headphones is quite small between the two, so having the volume knob just for the speakers would be nice) what would the difference be between using TS or TRS cables for the output? it just seems odd to have a stereo connection going into a single monitor, as if i am correct, something with a single driver cannot provide positional audio? or is that just not how it works?

Currently using this for sound from my stx: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01CT1XJUU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Would be buying 2x this for the mackie if i am wrong about the stereo input: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01CIN4R1O/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3A986VE721P1T

EDIT: and just to give an example of just how bad the emi coming from my computer can be, i had to put my rode procaster and the mackie on the far side of my desk away from the pc, as the mic would buzz when near the computer (about half a meter away). Had to get an external xonar u3 just to use my modmic before i dropped £500 for this mic setup.
Edited by Xotic - 2/17/17 at 10:24am
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For fixing the noise issue with the STX.
Did you disable the motherboard's on-board audio, in the BIOS, when you installed the STX card?
Move the STX card to a different PCI-E slot?
And try the Unified Xonar Drivers?
http://maxedtech.com/asus-xonar-unified-drivers/

As your using the more common un-balanced output from the source device (Essence STX), you want to use 1/4" mono ST plugs.
Unless you switched over to a source with a balanced output, you would not want to use 1/4" stereo TRS plugs.

It does seem the Mackie Onyx USB interface does come with a balanced 1/4" output jacks.
So a 1/4" stereo TRS plug to 1/4" stereo TRS plug cable would work, with connecting the Onyx to the studio monitors.

Yes, Yes, Yes. for the stx, i am aware of the cause, i just cannot fix it. its EMI from my graphics card. i have a bit of coil whine on my titan x, the louder that gets, the louder the noise is if i am using a mic from the card.
For switching over to the mackie (which i think i would prefer, i dont use speakers much, and the difference in sound for me using my 598 and 598 cs headphones is quite small between the two, so having the volume knob just for the speakers would be nice) what would the difference be between using TS or TRS cables for the output? it just seems odd to have a stereo connection going into a single monitor, as if i am correct, something with a single driver cannot provide positional audio? or is that just not how it works?

Currently using this for sound from my stx: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01CT1XJUU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Would be buying 2x this for the mackie if i am wrong about the stereo input: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01CIN4R1O/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3A986VE721P1T

EDIT: and just to give an example of just how bad the emi coming from my computer can be, i had to put my rode procaster and the mackie on the far side of my desk away from the pc, as the mic would buzz when near the computer (about half a meter away). Had to get an external xonar u3 just to use my modmic before i dropped £500 for this mic setup.

You have listed the correct cables for connecting the Onyx to the BX5

Un-balanced connection is one positive channel and one ground channel (TS plug or RCA plug)
Un-balanced connection is what common consumer electronics products normally use
Balanced connection is two positive channels and one ground channel (TRS plug or XLR plug).
So for a balanced connection, the source outputs two positive channels and the receiving device takes in two positive channels.
Guess you could say the balanced connection is the more professional connection.
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You have listed the correct cables for connecting the Onyx to the BX5

Un-balanced connection is one positive channel and one ground channel (TS plug or RCA plug)
Un-balanced connection is what common consumer electronics products normally use
Balanced connection is two positive channels and one ground channel (TRS plug or XLR plug).
So for a balanced connection, the source outputs two positive channels and the receiving device takes in two positive channels.
Guess you could say the balanced connection is the more professional connection.

Ah, so it has nothing to do with audio positioning?
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Originally Posted by Tacoboy View Post

You have listed the correct cables for connecting the Onyx to the BX5

Un-balanced connection is one positive channel and one ground channel (TS plug or RCA plug)
Un-balanced connection is what common consumer electronics products normally use
Balanced connection is two positive channels and one ground channel (TRS plug or XLR plug).
So for a balanced connection, the source outputs two positive channels and the receiving device takes in two positive channels.
Guess you could say the balanced connection is the more professional connection.

Ah, so it has nothing to do with audio positioning?

Advantages of a balanced connection it cuts interference and helps signal quality with longer cable connections.
XLR plug protects against shorts when the cable is first plugged in.
But i'm guessing the TRS and XLR are equal for audio quality.

I'm guessing(?) there is no practical (noiticeable?) audio positioning advantage (for gaming) with a balanced connection.
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Advantages of a balanced connection it cuts interference and helps signal quality with longer cable connections.
XLR plug protects against shorts when the cable is first plugged in.
But i'm guessing the TRS and XLR are equal for audio quality.

I'm guessing(?) there is no practical (noiticeable?) audio positioning advantage (for gaming) with a balanced connection.

ah, this isnt for gaming (except the occasional for honor round if i am not playing with friends) just for movies and music. just assumed a mono cable (being the unbalanced one) would be like, one side of a headset, whilst the mono would be the other side of a headset.
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