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[ZDNet] Zuckerberg's epic Facebook manifesto redacted to omit plans for AI to monitor private messages

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In a version of his manifesto given to media before posting it on Facebook, Zuckerberg wrote: "The long-term promise of AI is that in addition to identifying risks more quickly and accurately than would have already happened, it may also identify risks that nobody would have flagged at all, including terrorists planning attacks using private channels, people bullying someone too afraid to report it themselves, and other issues both local and global. It will take many years to develop these systems."

Facebook confirmed to Mashable that the statement in the earlier version had been revised to: "Looking ahead, one of our greatest opportunities to keep people safe is building artificial intelligence to understand more quickly and accurately what is happening across our community."

One possible explanation for removing the passage is that it conflicts with a later passage outlining how Facebook's safety measures needn't compromise privacy.

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Facebook absolutely, definitely not being creeps, day #4762.
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Happy to have never touched facebook.
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Happy to have never touched facebook.

Agreed. Zuckerberg is a classic hypocrite. He speaks at fundraisers advocating mass surveillance, but then proceeds to physically remove cameras from his own personal devices, and then builds high walls around his various owned real estate (which reside in gated communities that outright ban surveillance, no less). The public and private Zuck are as different as night and day.
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Agreed. Zuckerberg is a classic hypocrite. He speaks at fundraisers advocating mass surveillance, but then proceeds to physically remove cameras from his own personal devices, and then builds high walls around his various owned real estate (which reside in gated communities that outright ban surveillance, no less). The public and private Zuck are as different as night and day.

Came here to say this exactly.
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Glad we're in agreement. He's another do as I say not as I do person who knows what's best for us.
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Meanwhile, the NSA is sitting in the corner quietly smiling to itself.

I'm kind of in two minds about this. One the one hand, I value my privacy. On the other, Facebook clearly spell out their data policy on their website. It's not hard to find, or written in obscure leagalese:
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Originally Posted by What kinds of information do we collect? 
Things you do and information you provide.
We collect the content and other information you provide when you use our Services, including when you sign up for an account, create or share, and message or communicate with others.
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Originally Posted by How do we use this information? 
Promote safety and security.
We use the information we have to help verify accounts and activity, and to promote safety and security on and off of our Services, such as by investigating suspicious activity or violations of our terms or policies.

Found that in less than 5 minutes.


So it is not like Facebook are lying about it, and if you use their service then you are deemed to have agreed to their terms and conditions, even if you didn't bother to read them. At the end of the day, it is up to you as a consumer to make an informed choice about if or how you use various services.
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Agreed. Zuckerberg is a classic hypocrite. He speaks at fundraisers advocating mass surveillance, but then proceeds to physically remove cameras from his own personal devices, and then builds high walls around his various owned real estate (which reside in gated communities that outright ban surveillance, no less). The public and private Zuck are as different as night and day.

Pretty sure he's a sociopath too. Some of the crap he's pulled over the years is bad. Very bad.

Like when he screwed over a founding partner by diluting their shares and removing their name from the founding father wall. He's brilliant but he's also a leech.
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Pretty sure he's a sociopath too. Some of the crap he's pulled over the years is bad. Very bad.

Like when he screwed over a founding partner by diluting their shares and removing their name from the founding father wall. He's brilliant but he's also a leech.

(((Zuckerberg))) would never do anything like that.
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If he thinks artificial intelligence still hasn't developed enough to do those things, he probably isn't that close to NSA.
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So it is not like Facebook are lying about it, and if you use their service then you are deemed to have agreed to their terms and conditions, even if you didn't bother to read them. At the end of the day, it is up to you as a consumer to make an informed choice about if or how you use various services.

Sure enough, but what do you have to say when they removed that part of the post? They are obviously worried about the trust people have in the system. Even more so when you read the way they worded it - it goes from major stuff and ends up on a general tone, which obviously raises concerns - where exactly will they go with this - might as well say that private messages are anything but - and yet they left those parts about privacy untouched, as the article quotes.
 
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