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Poll Results: Ryzen- Which SKU are you interested in purchasing from Silicon Lottery?

Poll expired: Mar 20, 2017 This is a multiple choice poll
  • 38% of voters (46)
    1800X 8C/16T/4.0GHz/$490
  • 25% of voters (30)
    1700X 8C/16T/3.8GHz/$380
  • 35% of voters (43)
    1700 8C/16T/3.7GHz/$320
  • 34% of voters (41)
    1600X 6C/12T/3.7GHz/$255
  • 3% of voters (4)
    1400X 4C/8T/3.9GHz/$200
  • 0% of voters (0)
    1200X 4C/4T/3.8GHz/$150
120 Total Votes  
post #71 of 82
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post


Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I'm planing on getting another Ryzen to bin. Here is some data of my 1st R7 1700 on C6H.

Stability testing screenshots (Click to show)
10 loops x264 ~1hr



2hrs RealBench Stress mode




(Only used HWMonitor in above as was getting data to Martin aka Mumak if HWiNFO had an issue or all programs, looks like Asus need to fix access to monitoring)
From UEFI defaults I change:- (Click to show)

CPU Core Voltage [Offset mode] [Auto]-> [0.19375]
CPU Load-line Calibration [Auto]->[Level 3]
VRM Spread Spectrum [Auto]->[Disabled]
Sense MI Skew [Auto]->[Enabled]
Sense MI Offset [Auto]->[272]

Advanced\AMD CBS\Zen Common Options\



Advanced\AMD CBS\Zen Common Options\Custom Core PStates\

Stock



3.9GHz

Now what I see on DMM. (Click to show)
Note: in below screenshots what voltages on DMM are omitted in 2nd/3rd are same as 1st.

3.9GHz CPU Voltage [Auto] with +193mV offset and LLC LVL 3



3.9GHz CPU Voltage [Auto] with +193mV offset and LLC LVL 1



Stock


Now why I'm posting this, prior to setting 3.9GHz OC my very first profile was 3.7GHz all cores boost profile. On this I did RealBench Stress mode with no voltage offset so stock VCORE and it ran for 2hrs.



I then proceeded to x264 with same settings, loop 1 failed.



Setting an offset of +0.01250V failed at loop 3 0.9%, upping offset to +0.01875V allowed 10 loops of x264 to pass.



I'm using min hardware, fresh install of Win 7 Pro SP1 x64 with bare min apps I need for OC testing and drivers from AMD site, etc and not "bloatware" versions.

I'm currently of the opinion Ryzen lacks OC headroom and just a stability test of RealBench maybe too little a test for binning.
Have you tested your bin process with anything else yet?

Cheers smile.gif .

X264 is pretty close to Realbench, and the little bit of headroom we always leave in chips probably makes up that gap. We tested a variety of things but decided to stick with Realbench in the end.
post #72 of 82
No worries smile.gif , cheers for reply smile.gif .
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post #73 of 82
You guys do realize that 1.45 set in bios with llc 3 is not really 1.45v to cpu at socket right? Is your 1.45 actually a bios set vcore or a measured vcore on pad on motherboards provided voltage read points?

None of these are accurate btw...

1.40 set in bios with llc 5 is about 1.40-1.41 measured at the cpu... (behind socket)

That is closest your going to get to set vs actual readings on ch6.

Also not knocking the binning process as while it may not exactly line up with other stress tests...it will still weed out good from bad....but there is a considerable difference from realbench to prime 95 and other stress tests....like instant bsod at "stable realbench" settings.

Instant bsod...far from stable imo.
Edited by chew* - 4/9/17 at 9:30am
post #74 of 82
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We are re-evaluating our Ryzen lineup in general, it's been pushed back from the rush of the Skylake-X launch.

Demand for Ryzen is pretty low for us compared to other products we offer. I assume those looking to pay premiums for binned chips are more likely to go for Intel's offerings in the first place, which makes sense. We may bring back the 1600X/1800X and just keep those available as low volume products.

I'm thinking threadripper will be a big hit for us though, so a lot of our AMD focus is going to be there for the foreseeable future.
post #75 of 82
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Originally Posted by Silicon Lottery View Post

We are re-evaluating our Ryzen lineup in general, it's been pushed back from the rush of the Skylake-X launch.

Demand for Ryzen is pretty low for us compared to other products we offer. I assume those looking to pay premiums for binned chips are more likely to go for Intel's offerings in the first place, which makes sense. We may bring back the 1600X/1800X and just keep those available as low volume products.

I'm thinking threadripper will be a big hit for us though, so a lot of our AMD focus is going to be there for the foreseeable future.

I think most people love the value of the 1700, but same time want to generally push 4ghz. So 4ghz binning in general is probably the reasonable thing but idk how much money there is to make on that and if people would rather just take a risk. Like I had a dud 1800x first time @ 3.9 and this time I got a 4.25ghz 1800x

So people wanting utmost performance definitely would probably like to get out that 200-300mhz on Threadripper
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post #76 of 82
It would be great if you kept a 1600X and a 1700X in the regular roster. I'm still thinking of picking up a 4Ghz 1600X, but I just have to decide on the build fully.
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post #77 of 82
Looking for a 4Ghz 1700. Any dates for restock?
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post #78 of 82
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Looking for a 4Ghz 1700. Any dates for restock?

Not planning on restocking 1700s at the moment.
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Will you be restocking any ryzen cpus?
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post #80 of 82
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Will you be restocking any ryzen cpus?

Not in the near term.
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