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The ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4 is hands down the best board for the money, too bad its red tho so i had to go with the killer lol.
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https://www.msi.com/pdf/presale/x370-gaming-plus
https://www.msi.com/pdf/presale/x370-gaming-pro
https://www.msi.com/pdf/presale/b350-gaming-pro-carbon <---- 2x USB 3.1 Gen 2 + Intel LAN ... also I think it has 8 chokes on left side which is a good sign that it is the X370 sans SLI
https://www.msi.com/pdf/presale/b350-krait-gaming
https://www.msi.com/pdf/presale/b350m-pro-vdh
https://www.msi.com/pdf/presale/a320m-gaming-pro

B350 Pro carbon supposedly $135 per B&H https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1329199-REG/msi_b350_gaming_pro_carbon.html
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does the m2 slot in question share lanes with the sata drives? Check your boards documentation...

Nope, checked the manual, doesn't mention anything about that. My board is an Asrock x370 Taichi, if it's of any help. The system freezes quite often when i have the two ssd's connected.
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Nope, checked the manual, doesn't mention anything about that. My board is an Asrock x370 Taichi, if it's of any help. The system freezes quite often when i have the two ssd's connected.
I've got an Asrock Fatal1ty Pro with 3 SSD's connected. System never freezes.

According to Tweaktown in regards to the M.2's, "Two M.2 Slots : Almost all X370 motherboards feature one x4 PCI-E 3.0 M.2 slot that offers 32Gb/s of bandwidth. ASRock also decided to add in a second M.2 slot, but instead of getting x4 PCI-E 3.0 it gets x4 PCI-E 2.0. It shares that x4 PCI-E 2.0 with the last x16 slot, and can offer 20Gb/s of bandwidth. So if your drive doesn't really go over 2000Mbps, then you won't face a performance penalty by using the second slot."
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More boards are coming. Any manufacturer who didn't step up because of demand would be leaving money on the table for the competition.

I keep wandering over to manufacturer web sites hoping to see my unicorn board. Ah well. There's always pizza.

Gigabyte has the first a320 board out? Asrock with a new b350? Both priced at ~70 us on the egg.

Pizza is always the answer. yessir.gif
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I've got an Asrock Fatal1ty Pro with 3 SSD's connected. System never freezes.

According to Tweaktown in regards to the M.2's, "Two M.2 Slots : Almost all X370 motherboards feature one x4 PCI-E 3.0 M.2 slot that offers 32Gb/s of bandwidth. ASRock also decided to add in a second M.2 slot, but instead of getting x4 PCI-E 3.0 it gets x4 PCI-E 2.0. It shares that x4 PCI-E 2.0 with the last x16 slot, and can offer 20Gb/s of bandwidth. So if your drive doesn't really go over 2000Mbps, then you won't face a performance penalty by using the second slot."

Yeah it doesn't mention anything with sata, right now i have the main m2 slot with an 960evo and two separate ssd's on sata. The m2 ssd speed is right on the money but the two ssd's are just a bit better than a hard drive. Aside from that, the lan/wireless driver seems to randomly fail. Maybe updating through bioses from 1.4 to 2 botched something up and i should reinstall the operating system. What extra drivres do you install? or you're only letting windows choose?
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Nope, checked the manual, doesn't mention anything about that. My board is an Asrock x370 Taichi, if it's of any help. The system freezes quite often when i have the two ssd's connected.

actually other than the 16 lanes dedicated to graphics the rest are sent to the chipset and can be shared. M2_1 does not share lanes for you as far as I can tell. Since m2_2 population disables sata... 5? It shares lanes there. The two sata that are controlled by the asmedia chip are split off of something though it's not clear what.

There was some vague, to me at least, issue with the wifi/bluetooth module for a couple of people. I doubt it's appliable but you could disable/uninstall it to see if it does make a difference easily enough.

And, given you have it available, bclk ~107 , maybe bit higher? causes pcie to drop to gen 2 with attendant drop in speed.

And then there's the tweaktown review . which points out the sharing of lanes for m2_2 and the last x16 slot?

Stuff to eliminate. Maybe see something that does give you a better clue to fix it.

Lan/wireless problem ? Definitely start by disabling the wireless parts
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actually other than the 16 lanes dedicated to graphics the rest are sent to the chipset and can be shared. M2_1 does not share lanes for you as far as I can tell. Since m2_2 population disables sata... 5? It shares lanes there. The two sata that are controlled by the asmedia chip are split off of something though it's not clear what.

There was some vague, to me at least, issue with the wifi/bluetooth module for a couple of people. I doubt it's appliable but you could disable/uninstall it to see if it does make a difference easily enough.

And, given you have it available, bclk ~107 , maybe bit higher? causes pcie to drop to gen 2 with attendant drop in speed.

And then there's the tweaktown review . which points out the sharing of lanes for m2_2 and the last x16 slot?

Stuff to eliminate. Maybe see something that does give you a better clue to fix it.

Lan/wireless problem ? Definitely start by disabling the wireless parts

Thanks, disabled wireless/bluetooth to see if the connection fails again. Everything's stock on the bios so bclk @ 107 is out of question i guess. m2_2 isn't populated, the only populated slots are m2_1 and sata3_2 and sata3_3. I have only one card on the pcie 1 slot.
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Yeah it doesn't mention anything with sata, right now i have the main m2 slot with an 960evo and two separate ssd's on sata. The m2 ssd speed is right on the money but the two ssd's are just a bit better than a hard drive. Aside from that, the lan/wireless driver seems to randomly fail. Maybe updating through bioses from 1.4 to 2 botched something up and i should reinstall the operating system. What extra drivres do you install? or you're only letting windows choose?
Only Windows 10 drivers installed. No problem with Bluetooth after installing the antenna's. No driver crashes at all.
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I just can't see a point in using a top notch processor on mediocre MB and chipset.
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